saqarTvelo da qarTuli eklesia apokalifsis karibWesTan

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#2 (314) z 28 ianvari, 2015 weli z gamodis oTxSabaTs z WWW.SAERTOGAZETI.GE z fasi 1 lari
gia volski:
irakli RaribaSvilis
gadadgomas
ar velodebi,
mas didi
inteleqtualuri
da organizaciuli
resursi gaaCnia, rom
es qveyana marTos
vin cdilobs biZina ivaniSvilis da
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis daSinebas?
paata xizanaSvili:
Cemi, rogorc regionis
xelmZRvanelis,
upirvelesi amocanaa,
mravaleTnikuri
qvemo qarTli yvela
iq mcxovrebisTvis
Tavis samSoblod
aRiqmebodes
vaxtang maisaia:
`nacebi~ arian
qarTveli
trockistebi,
romlebic
saqarTveloSi
`sikvdilis
eskadronis~
Semoyvanas
gegmaven
oTar xufenia:
Cemi azriT,
konstituciaSi
pirdapir unda Caiweros
_ Tanamedrove
saqarTvelos
damfuZneblebi qarTveli
da afxazi erebi arian
deniza sumbaZe:
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.
`saerTo gazeTi~ #42-0
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saqarTvelo da
qarTuli eklesia
apokalifsis
karibWesTan
zaal kasreliSvili:
im qarTvel
musulmanebs,
romlebic danarCen
qarTvelebs
daCoqebiT emuqrebian,
CavalT da iq
davaCoqebT,
sadac arian...
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saerTo gazeTi
vaxtang
xarCilava
is satanisturi Zalebi, romlebmac iuri
vazagaSvili aafeTqes,
saqarTvelos asafeTqeblad emzadebian.
es pirveli, sasinji
afeTqeba iyo, afeTqebatesti, romliTac qarTveli xalxis, pirvel
rigSi ki saqarTvelos
amJamindeli xelisuflebis simtkicis da nebisyofis
gamocda
surT.
es afeTqeba, romelic Tamamad SeiZleba teroristul aqtad dakvalificirdes,
ar
aris Cveulebrivi
kriminaluri SemTxveva _ Tavisi
masStabebiT is ufro saxelmwifo gadatrialebis mcdelobas hgavs.
SeiZleba vinmes gazviadebulad moeCvenos
es mosazreba, magram
arc is aris gamoricxuli, uaxloes xanebSi movlenebi ise
ganviTardes, rom am varaudis siswore dadasturdes.
asea Tu isea, ueWvelia erTi ram _ dRes
ukve ver vicxovrebT
ise, rogorc guSin
vcxovrobdiT
_
am
afeTqebam is vardisferi farda Camoglija,
romelic sinamdvilis
danaxvaSi
gviSlida
xels da uceb aRmovaCi-
redaqtoris gverdi
neT, rom garSemo sxva
realobaa _ kuSti,
mkacri, sastiki, daundobeli.
xelisuflebam
am
realobis Sesacvlelad dauyovnebliv Tu
ar daiwyo moqmedeba,
SeiZleba situacia kidev ufro daiZabos.
pirvel rigSi, albaT, aucilebelia, SssSi da sxva Zalovan
struqturebSi
didi
sakadro wmenda daiwyos.
ara marto Zalovani struqturebi, aramed, zogadad, yvela saxelmwifo struqtura
`nacionalebis~ mier Segzavnili mexuTe kolonisgan
unda gaiwmindos,
sanam am mexuTe kolonas es saxelmwifo struqturebi da masTan erTad
qarTuli saxelmwifo ar aufeTqebia.
* * *
iuri
vazagaSvili
Suris saZieblad arc
avtomatiT daxvedria
vinmes da arc xelyumbara usvria vinmesTvis.
is cdilobda, samarTlebrivi gziT, kanonierebis farglebSi, obieqturad da miukerZoeblad gamoZiebuliyo
misi Svilis mkvlelobis saqme da damnaSaveebi kanonis Sesabamisad
dasjiliyvnen.
iuri vazagaSvili iqceoda ise,
rogorc unda iqceodes
moqalaqe,
romelic pativs
scems demokratiul Rirebulebebs,
pativs scems kanonebs, pativs scems
da ufrTxildeba
sakuTar saxelmwifos.
iuri vazagaSvi-
`saerTo gazeTi~
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li Tavisi saqcieliT magaliTs aZlevda mTel sazogadoebas.
is ibrZoda yvelasTvis da yvelas magier,
rom mis qveyanaSi kanibalebis TareSi erTxel da samudamod
damTavrebuliyo da sikeTes, simarTles, siyvaruls gaemarjva borotebaze, usamarTlobaze, siZulvilze.
_ iuri vazagaSvili
qarTveli martin luTer kingia, romelic
samoqalaqo TavisuflebisTvis ibrZoda _ ambobs batoni vaxtang maisaia `saerTo gazeTis~
dRevandel nomerSi da
me savsebiT veTanxmebi
am Sefasebas.
iuri vazagaSvili ibrZoda imisTvis, risTvisac unda ibrZodes
demokratiuli saxelmwifo, Tu is marTlac
demokratiulia.
iuri vazagaSvili da
saxelmwifo, wesiT da
rigiT, TanamebrZolebi
da mokavSireebi unda
yofiliyvnen,
magram,
samwuxarod, saxelmwifom Rirseuli partnioroba ver gauwia Tavis
Rirseul moqalaqes.
axla mainc unda aRsruldes is, risTvisac
iuri vazagaSvilma sicocxle gaswira...
mova dro, roca saqarTvelos moqalaqeebi aucileblad moiTxoven, qalaqis
centrSi aRimarTos `nacmoZraobis~
faSisturi reJimis msxverplTa xsovnisadmi miZRvnili memoriali, sadac im
adamianTa gvar-saxelebi amoitvifreba, romlebic `nacmoZraobis~ antiadamianuri reJimis sisastikes Seewirnen.
me ar vici, rodis iqneba es, xval, zeg,
erTi Tu aTi wlis Semdeg, magram danamdvilebiT vici, rom es moxdeba...
gazeTi xelmZRvanelobs Tavisufali presis principiT.
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saerTo gazeTi
#2 (314), 28.I, 2015 w.
,,saerTo gazeTi“ saparlamento fraqcia ,,qarTuli ocnebis“
Tavjdomares gia volskis
esaubra.
_ batono gia, modiT, oriode sityviT SegvifaseT iuri vazagaSvilis sazareli mkvleloba, ra iyo is, kargad gaazrebuli provokacia, SurisZieba, arasasurveli adamianis, mowmis Tavidan moSoreba Tu marTlac didi areulobis dasawyisi mTavrobaSi?
_ iciT, me saerTod ar mCvevia gamoZiebis kompetenciaSi
SeWra da raRac daskvnebis keTeba. Tqven, rac daasaxeleT, am
mkvlelobis motivacias gamoZiebis TvalsazrisiTac da sazogadoebis damokidebulebis TvalsazrisiTac seriozuli gansxvavebebi axlavs. naCqarevi politikuri platformidan gancxadebebis gakeTeba yovelTvis raRac
gavlenas axdens sazogadoebis
cnobierebaze, amitom Zalian safrTxilo saqmea. me mainc vfiqrob,
rom baton iuris ra pretenziebic hqonda konkretuli pirebisa
da struqturebis mimarT da saerTod Tavad rac icoda, absoluturad, yvela detali cnobili iyo gamoZiebisTvisac, amitom
me, rogorc erT-erT rigiT moqalaqes, garkveuli eWvi gamiCnda,
rom saubrebi axal mowmesa da
axal garemoebebze raRac scenaris nawilia. SexedeT, Seiqmna
aJiotaJi, rom viTom axali garemoebebi ikveTeboda da swored
maSin moxda mkvlelobac. da mainc, rTulia ilaparako konkretikaze, uamravi adamiani SeiZleba yofiliyo am mkvlelobis Sem-
kveTi, magram mTavari mainc is
aris (me ase mgonia), rom aq qveyanaSi destabilizaciis mosurnis portreti ikveTeba.
_ faqtia, viRacam erTi gasroliT oTxi kurdReli mokla arasasurveli pirovneba moiSora, xelisufleba da sazogadoeba gamoiwvia, aseve daaSina es
ukanaskneli da mmarTveli Zalis
uniaTobas gausva xazi. sxvaTa
Soris, viRacebma ruseTiskenac
ki gaiSvires xeli, ,,gru“-ss xelweraao...
_ diax, ratomac ara, yvelaferi SeiZleba. axla ruseTi SeiZleba kremlis doneze ar gegmavs aseT operacias, magram realurad dainteresebuli rom
aris saqarTveloSi destabilizaciiTa da dapirispirebiT, amaze ori azri ar arsebobs. es
sityva - uniaTo, Cveni oponentebis, nacmoZraobis terminologiaSia, erTis mxriv, `nacmoZraobas~ raRac politikur dividends aZlevs, rom, ai, am Temaze
daSvebuli TviTon uwyebaSi,
SigniT, rom im adamianebs, vis
mimarTac kiTxvebi arsebobda es
kiTxvebi Tavis droze ar dausves da sazogadoebisTvis xelmisawvdomi ar gaxades adamianTa
mosazreba ama Tu im sakiTxze.
specoperaciaSi monawileobas
SeiZleba Rebulobda adamiani,
romelic saerTod ar iyo CarTuli am operaciis momzadebaSi,
an, miT umetes, ar hqonda warmodgena, rom raime ukanonos sCadioda, ubralod asrulebda im
samsaxureobriv movaleobas, rac
ekisreba policiels. Tumca ada-
gia volski:
irakli RaribaSvilis
gadadgomas ar velodebi,
mas didi inteleqtualuri
da organizaciuli resursi
gaaCnia, rom es qveyana marTos
isaubros da meores mxriv, garkveuli adamianebis jgufi arsebobs, romelic, arc nacmoZraobas da arc qarTul ocnebas
uWers mxars da sworedac, rom
destabilizaciis momxrea da am
terminiT terminis avtorebze
mianiSnebs da raRac paralels
avlebs SemkveTzec da Semsruleblebzec. me mgoni gasagebad
vTqvi. ase rom, yvela Zalian
frTxilad unda iyos, rodesac
uniaTobaze laparakobs. me, ar
vici, ras niSnavs adekvaturi
mTavroba, imas, romelic quCaSi
xocavs xalxs, Tundac vazagaSvils, an Tundac im 120 axalgazrdas, romelic quCaSi iqna
daxvretili, Tundac maTi garkveuli nawili kriminalisken yofiliyo midrekili?! sazogadoebis daSinebisTvis aseTi sisxliani nabijebis gadadgma aris xelisuflebis arauniaToba? an is
aris uniaTobis sapirispiro qmedeba, rodesac xeljoxebiT aupatiurebdnen xalxs? es xom realobaa, es xom guSin iyo, ase advilad xom ar SeiZleba, daiviwyo?! situacia realurad Seicvala. jer erTi, kriminalis
statistika mxolod axla Seiqmna, ar arsebobda, raRac zedapiruli, xeliT Sevsebuli furclebi da blankebi iyo. dRes kriminalis statistika Seiqmna da
gaSuqebis donem aiwia. mediasaSualebebi aravin Caido jibeSi,
arc ecada. da es aris arauniaToba maTi gagebiT? axla meorea
kidev SeSfoTebuli sazogadoeba, romelic Tavs daucvelad
grZnobs.
_ ar unda grZnobdes Tavs
daucvelad da ar unda eSinodes?
_ iciT, paralelebis gavleba ar msiamovnebs, miT umetes,
CemTvis kargad nacnobi pirovneba esoden tragikulad daiRupa,
ojaxi, faqtobrivad, ganadgurda... pirdapir geubnebiT, daculobis xarisxi qveyanaSi sakmaod
maRalia, ar vici, kidev statistika rogor moviSvelio, vimeoreb, danaSaulebaTa gaxsnis maCvenebli sakmaod maRalia, operatiuloba gansakuTrebiT. uamravi
kriminaluri avtoritetia daWerili, ubralod am dakavebebze
speqtaklebi ar dadgmula, diax,
gacilebiT ufro meti, vidre
mTelma `nacionalurma moZraobam~ gaagzavna sazRvargareT
,,gastrolebze“. swored asea,
ubralod, yvelaferi gadis gaSuqebaze, piarze, propagandaze
da am propagandistuli berketebis gamoyenebis profesionalizmze.
_ araerTi politikosi imasac, acxadebs, rom es mkvleloba nacionalebis Cadenilia da
samarTlianobis aRudgenlobis
da koabitaciis Sedegia. ise, mainc da mainc vazagaSvili unda
aefeTqebinaT, rom Ss saministro
kortebTan Catarebuli sisxlian
specoperaciaSi monawile naczonderebisgan gawmendiliyo da
ramdeni mkvleloba unda moxdes,
rom samarTlianoba aRadginoT?
aqve WikaiZis postidan gadadgomac SegvifaseT...
_ rac Seexeba WikaiZis gadadgomas, amboben, moralurad
gamarTlebulia misi nabiji,
sworad moiqcao, ki batono, moralur mxares, rac Seexeba namdvilad sworad gadadgmuli nabijia, magram es ar ukavSirdeba
marto pirovnul morals, es
aris profesionaluri TvalsazrisiTac sworad gadadgmuli, metic aucilebeli nabiji. iseve,
rogorc Ss saministros sxva maRalCinosnebis mxridan. da saerTodac, Zalian didi Secdomaa
mianTa jgufi,
vinc amzadebda
operacias da realurad icoda,
rom ukanonobas Cadioda sazogadoebis winaSe pasuxismgebelia.
diax, sazogadoebis da ara saxelmwifos winaSe. ase rom,
kiTxvebi yvelas mimarT unda yofiliyo dasmuli. vfiqrob, es
aris is seriozuli uaryofiTi
nawili, romelic im ganvlil periods, xelisuflebaSi Cveni
yofnis pirveli wels da Tveebs
Tan axlavs, axasiaTebs. es namdvilad aris Secdoma da asaRiarebelia. da mTavari iciT ra
aris? aqamde gamoZieba dasrulebuli unda yofiliyo, unda
gvcodnoda ra moxda kortebze.
yvelafers Tavis saxeli unda
darqmeoda. miT umetes, iusticiis saministrosTan roca memoriali gaixsna. aq ar aris laparaki konkretul pirovnebebze, maTTvis gaxsnil memorialze, Tqven
gaxsovT, saakaSvilis gamonaTqvamebi amasTan dakavSirebiT, rom
banditebi daxoces da axali xe-
lisufleba am banditebs Zegls
udgamso. es ar aris imis monumenti, es ukanonobis msxverplTa
xsovnis monumentia, rom sazogadoebas yovelTvis axsovdes es,
vin vin iyo da vin ra rols asrulebda, es sazogadoebam, aucileblad, unda icodes. rogorc
ki es Tema daixureba da sazogadoebis yuradRebis miRma darCeba, gamoricxulia, rom amas raime cudi Sedegi ar mohyves. ase
rom, es adamianebi araTu unda
gadamdgariyvnen, aramed unda
garkveuliyo maTi roli am specoperaciaSi. vimeoreb, SeiZleba
arc arian is adamianebi damnaSaveebi, gamoZiebam unda gasces amaze pasuxi.
_ iuri vazagaSvili amtkicebda, rom dalaqiSvili, mirzoevi da maCaiZe misi Svilis
mkvlelobis Tanamonawileni iyvnen...
_ miT umetes, es gamoZiebas
aqamde unda daedgina. aq bevri
sakiTxia, romelsac imedia, momavalSi mainc gaecema pasuxi, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi saxelmwifo ar Sedgeba. rac Seexeba samarTlianobis aRdgenas, rodesac
xelisuflebaSi xar pasuximgeblobis xarisxi gacilebiT ufro
maRalia, vidre opoziciaSi yofnisas. Cveni amocana iyo sasamarTlos sasamarTlod Camoyalibeba. Tu sasamarTlo mxars ar giWers romelime adamianis dakavebaSi, an ar gaqvs amisTvis mtkicebulebebis mTeli dasta, sasamarTlo Sens mier Setanil sarCels aucileblad uaryofs. nacionaluri moZraobis dros aseTi sasamarTlo ar arsebobda.
kublaSvili damnaSavea sazogadoebis winaSe. sasamarTlo xelisuflebis sanotaro kantorad iyo qceuli (ar minda notariusebs Seuracxyofa mivayeno).
dRes sasamarTlo aseTi aRar
aris. Cven es rom ar gagvekeTebina, faqtobrivad, qveyanaSi demokratia ar iqneboda. Cven an
yvela mosamarTle unda gagveyara da mogveyvana axali mosamarTleebi (rogorc gaakeTes maT,
nacionalebma) da dagvewyo saqmeebis kerva nebismieri mtkicebulebebis gareSe, radgan, marTalia, danaSauli Zalian bevri
aqvT Cadenili, magram uamravi
mtkicebulebaa ganadgurebuli,
an ise unda movqceuliyaviT, rogorc moviqeciT. damoukidebeli
sasamarTlo iyo Cveni amocana.
mkacr xelsa da strategiul
loialobas Soris balansis dakaveba marTalia Zalian Znelia,
magram sazogadoebis usafrTxoebisTvisa da stabilurobisTvis
aucilebelia. ar geubnebiT, rom
es saukeTeso gamosavalia, metic, mravalmxriv ar aris saukeTeso gamosavali, jer erTi,
imitom, rom oponents aZlevs
saSualebas isaubros, iseT rameze, rac marTlac ver ganaxorci-
ele, anu yvela ver Seyare cixeSi, es erTi, meore mxaris oponents aZlevs saSualebas mobilizacia gaakeTos Tavisi resursebis, nacionaluri moZraobas
da Sen kidev SuaSi unda ifiqro
sazogadoebis stabilurobasa da
usafrTxoebaze da roca mTavrobaSi xar, valdebuli xar, rom
ase gaakeTo. yvela mxridan dartymebi miiRo, magram Sen Tavze
aiRo qveynis usafrTxoeba, miT
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saerTo gazeTi
#2 (314), 28.I, 2015 w.
gvesaubreba samxedro eqsperti, batoni vaxtang
maisaia
_ batono vaxtang, Cvens
irgvliv arastabiluri politikuri situaciaa. ra
safrTxeebs SeiZleba movelodeT garedan?
_ riskebi marTlac arsebobs. Tundac ukrainidan.
kerZod, yvela mebrZoli,
vinc iq midis, rogorc moxaliseebi, aseve sxva kontingenti, ar mgonia, iq midiodnen imisTvis, rom novorosiel
separatistebs
ebrZolon, magram `nacmoZraobis~ politikuri elita
da maTTan asocirebuli yofili gasamxedroebuli formirebebis wevrebi _ zonderebi, yofili `sikvdilis
eskadronis~ mebrZolebi, ra
Tqma unda, ukrainaSi arsebul areul situacias gamoiyeneben.
nacebi arian qarTveli trockistebi, ai,
axali definicia Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT.
rogorc trockim ipova
TavSesafari Tavis droze
meqsikaSi da laTinuri amerikis saxelmwifoebSi, aseve
eseni dabanakdnen ukrainaSi.
rogorc ki TavSesafari
ipoves, maSinve vixileT
oTar mirzoevi
konkretuli teroristuli
aqti _ iuri vazagaSvili mokles. Tumca am teraqts pirveli nawilic
hqonda. ianvris dasawyisSi
CarTulobis sainformacio
saagentos mimarT ganxorcielda teraqti _ kiberSeteva. hakerebma gatexes am saagentos saiti. samoqalaqo
CarTulobis sinformacio
centris TanamSromlebi politpatimrebi varT. batonebi: levan gogiCaiSvili, levan CitaZe, giorgi zerekiZe, me da
sxvebi.
Cven miviCnevT, rom es
iyo mizanmimarTuli Seteva,
romelic SearCies politikuri koniunqturidan gamom-
baT.
_ batono vaxtang,
modiT, kvlav Cvens
realobas davubrundeT _ Ss ministri
gadadga, kriminaluri
policiis ufrosis
moadgile mirzoevic gaTavisuflebulia...
_ ki, batono, WikaiZe gadadga, mirzoevic, magram Zalian
bevri `nacmoZraobis~
yofili mxardamWeri
da maT xelisufleba-
ri xalifatis erT-erTi
lideri abu hamza. valeri zumbaZe dRes iZiebs
lafanyuris specoperaciis
saqmes. xelmZRvanelia am komisiis. rogor gamoiZiebs,
Tavad mixvdebiT.
sxvaTa Soris, Jurnalisti lia toklikiSvili, romelic zura vazagaSvilis mkvlelobis saqmes ikvlevs, iuri vazagaSvils sikvdilamde Svilis
mkvlelobis mTavar mowmesTan unda daekavSirebina.
swored am qalbatonma dado
vaxtang maisaia:
ce aCvena. roca teraqtis
yvela niSani dafiqsirda,
imis magivrad, rom saqme
aReZraT ss 323-e da 326-e
muxlis Tanaxmad, aRZres
109-e muxliT. an sruli
uvicebi arian, an saqme
gvaqvs sabotaJTan.
yvela
kvalifikaciiT,
iuri vazagaSvilis mkvleloba iyo teraqti da am danaSaulisTvis ss kodeqsi
calke sasjels iTvaliswinebs.
_ teraqtis kvalifikacias Tavi ratom aarides?
_ imitom, rom teraqtis
dros sul sxva tipis gamoZieba da sxva saxis midgome-
`nacebi~ arian qarTveli
trockistebi, romlebic
saqarTveloSi `sikvdilis
eskadronis~ Semoyvanas gegmaven
dinare.
rac
Seexeba
batoni
iuris cinikuri mkvlelobis
sakiTxs. am saSineli saqmis
Camdenebma mSvenivrad icodnen, rom sazogadoebas Camoacilebdnen saakaSvilis reJimis winaaRmdeg Seupovar mebrZols,
romelsac
aseve mSvenivrad SeeZlo masebis mobilizeba da marTva.
Tamamad
SemiZlia
vTqva:
iuri
vazagaSvili
iyo qarTveli
martin luTer
kingi, romelic
ibrZoda samoqalaqo
TavisuflebisTvis.
am adamianze aRmarTes xeli. aqve minda
aRvniSno,
rom
mkvleloba
moxda
sasaflaoze.
rogorc sandro girgvlianis
mkvleloba ganxorcielda
sasaflaoze, esec sasaflaoze moxda.
es trockistebis xelweraa, batonebo.
gaixseneT, rogor hqonda
trockis ritualebis mania.
1919 wels misi iniciativiT
SemuSavda gegma. man brZana,
bolSevikebis kontrolirebad qarxnebSi CamoesxaT
iudas qandakebebi da es qandakebebi daedgaT im adgilas, sadac qristianul eklesias aafeTqebdnen.
trocki ambobda: tradiciebs unda vebrZoloT axali tradiciebis SemoRebiT,
axali adamiani unda SevqmnaTo. msgavsebebs xedavT, al-
Si myofi jer kidev darCnen informaciebi daTaSvilsa
Tanamdebobebze. magaliTad, da
zumbaZeze,
rogorc
igive simonika maCaiZe, vTqvi, es adamianebi dRes
romelic, rogorc amboben, dawinaurebuli arian da samonawileobda zurab va- qarTvelos erovnuli uSiSzagaSvilis mkvlelobis roebis problemebze muSaosaqmeSi. bevrjer miTqvams da ben. amitom mxolod Wikaikidev gavimeoreb, ar SeiZ- Zis gadadgoma saqmes ver
leba dausjeli dadiodnen uSvelis.
lado daTaSvili, vaqveyana mexuTe kolonisleri zumbaZe da oTar gan unda gaiwmindos, romeorjonikiZe. es adamiane- lnic Cagubebulni arian
bi uSualod monawileobd- yvelgan, xels uSlian gannen politpatimrebis wamebaSi da
isini dRes maRal
Tanamdebobebze
arian.
metsac
vityvi:
valeri
zumbaZe SemCneulia saerTaSoriso teroristebTan uSualo urTierTobebSi. es
ukve damtkicebuli faqtia. sami
iseTi mtkicebuleba maqvs, wyali
rom ar gauva.
pirvel
rigSi,
amaze amerikulma
presam daiwyo daubari _ rom misi
meSveobiT moxda
Tamaz WaRaliZe
lafanyuris specoperaciis monawile islamisti
meamboxeebis gadayvana saqar- viTarebas da tragikul
Tvelos
teritoriidan scenarebs weren drodadro.
_ ra aris imis mizezi,
TurqeTis teritoriaze vales sasazRvro punqtidan. rom ver gaiwminda qveyana
es adamianebi aRmoCndnen is- saxelisuflebo kriminalelamuri xalifatis rigebSi bisgan?
_ es aris sruli arapda dRes siriaSi ibrZvian.
maT Soris lafanyuris spe- rofesionalizmi. ai, axla,
coperaciis
monawileTa iuri vazagaSvilis saqmeze
razmis meTauri, islamistu- prokuraturam sruli sibe-
bia saWiro da Ziebis procesSi ufro advili da mosalodneli iyo namdvili
damnaSavis kvalze dadgoma.
_ Tqveni azriT, iuri vazagaSvilis
mkvlelobis
saqme gaixsneba?
_ Zieba Tavidanve araswori mimarTulebiT midis,
amitom me ar SemiZlia
vTqva, rom es saqme namdvilad gaixsneba.
amaze gesaubreT zemoT
da axla Tavad gamoitaneT daskvna _ gaixsneba
Tu ara es mkvleloba.
ambobdnen, lafanyuris operacia gaixsnebao,
magram yvelam davinaxeT,
islamistma WaRaliZem
rom wamogvaZaxa am specoperaciis gauxsneloba
da daimuqra: saqarTvelo moeqceva terorizmis rkalSio.
iuri
vazagaSvilis
mkvlelobis saqmes gamoiZieben Tu ara, amaze erTi pasuxi maqvs _ No
comment!
_ mosalodnelia Tu
ara nacionalebis kvlav
dabruneba? saakaSvili
da misi momxreebi xan
gazafxulze aqciebis gamarTviT imuqrebian, xan
Semodgomaze saqarTveloSi `SemosvliT~. adeiSvili gviTvlis _ dedas gitirebTo.
_ Zalian kargi, Tu sazogadoeba aseT molodinSi
iqneba da cota gamofxizldeba, radgan Zalian movdundiT. Cven micemuli varT
TviTdinebas. mivendeT im Za-
saerTo gazeTi
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lebs, romlebic gancxromaSi
arian Cayuryumalavebulni
da siraqlemas mdgomareobaSi imyofebian. `strausizmi~
sWirT, `strausizmi~. ai, kidev erTi termini Tqveni gazeTisTvis eqskluziurad.
erTi sityviT, wvrilfexa
politikur saqonlebs _ saakaSvils, adeiSvils da misnairebs madloba unda vuTx-
raT imisTvis, rom afxizleben sazogadoebas.
Camosvla undaT? Camovidnen, didi siamovnebiT davxvdebiT da vin rogori gatyavebuli iqneba, mere naxaven.
Camovidnen. es gvinda
Cvenc. radgan eseni gaiqcnen
laCrulad, turebiviT.
_ `qarTuli ocneba~ rogor moiqceva?
_ me mgoni, maTSi amoqmedeba TviTgadarCenis instinqti da samarTlianobis sabolood aRdgenis survili
gauCndebaT. sazogadoebasac
igive survili aqvs da es
ori Zala sabolood SeZlebs Sedegis miRwevas.
viRac juja adeiSvili da
politikuri pinoqio _ mixeil saakaSvili awi veRarafers SeZleben.
politpatimrebi saSimSilod rom CavdiodiT, 2012
wlis arCevnebis wina dReebi
iyo, cixis ufrosma gviTxra:
arCevnebis damTavrebisTanave,
2 oqtombris pirveli saaTi
rom daiwyeba da dafiqsirdeba `nacmoZraobis~ gamarjve-
ba, cocxali verc erTi ver
gadarCebiTo. brZaneba iyo
gacemuli usafrTxoebis samsaxuris mier _ Camosuliyvnen da Cveni dasja ganexorcielebinaT, im motiviT,
TiTqos patimrebma bunti moawyves da srolis fonze daixocneno.
aseT dros ar SevSindiT
30-40 politpatimari, roca
sikvdils TvalebSi vuyurebdiT da nacebis axlandeli
wkavwkavi ra mosatania?
iranda kalandaZe
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axalgazrdoba Ramis barebsa
da garTobaze ar unda
fiqrobdes - ilia meore
kukiaze, wminda ninos saxelobis taZarSi sadResaswauli
liturgiis dasrulebis Semdeg
uwmindesma mrevls qadagebiT
mimarTa da wminda ninos dResaswauli miuloca.
`dideba da madloba ufals,
rom saqarTvelos mouvlina
wminda nino, romelmac moaqcia
saqarTvelo. dRevandeli dRe
gansakuTrebulia am taZrisaTvis. taZari 120 wlisTavs dResaswaulobs. am wminda adgilze igi 120 wlis win aSenda. SevTxov ufals, naTelSi amyofos
taZris damaarsebelTa da aRmSenebelTa ukvdavi sulebi.
wminda nino es aris saswaulebrivi da udidesi pirovneba saqarTvelos istoriaSi. wminda ninom udidesi saswauliT moaqcia
saqarTvelo da ai, dRes, me vfiqrob im Rvalwlze, romelic unda ikisros Cvenma axalgazrdobam. warmoidgineT, rogori pasuxismgeblobiT cxovrobdnen Cveni winaprebi. daviT aRmaSenebeli 16
wlis iyo, rodesac mas samefo gvirgvini daadges. es iyo udidesi pasuxismgebloba RvTisa da eris winaSe. Tamar mefe mcirewlovani iyo, rodesac misi mamis Tanamosaydre gaxda. yoveli adamiani ki unda fiqrobdes ara imaze, ra Wamos da ra Caicvas, amas mas
RmerTi miscems, aramed risTvis movida am qveyanaze, ra gaakeTos
samSoblosaTvis~, - brZana uwmindesma.
patriarqis TqmiT, Tanamedrove axalgazrdoba garTobaze fiqrobs. aris axalgazrdebis nawili, romelic fiqrobs qveyanaze,
magram ver gaukvlevia gza. uwmindesma aRniSna, rom axalgazrdoba Ramis barebsa da garTobaze ar unda fiqrobdes, radgan Ramis
barebi maT suls klavs da axalgazrdoba amas unda eridos.
irakli RaribaSvilis gadadgomas ar velodebi,
mas didi inteleqtualuri da organizaciuli
resursi gaaCnia, rom es qveyana marTos
3 gv.
ufro, rom bevria gare gamowvevac.
_ nacmoZraoba Riad aanonsebs TebervalSi areulobis
dawyebas, ras eliT?
_ arafers, ar mgonia rame
gamouvides. `nacionalur moZraobas~ Zalian susti platforma aqvs qarTul sazogadoebaSi, aqedan gamomdinare yvelaferi, mTeli Tavis resursi
gadatanili aqvs garedan Setevis ganxorcielebaze mTavrobis
mimarTulebiT. sxva partiebs
ki, mag: Tavisufali demokratebs ase Tu ise raRac resursi gaaCniaT, magram bolo periodSi Tavis gamonaTqvamebSi Zalian daemsgavsnen `nacionalur
moZraobas~. rac Seexeba sxva
partiebs, yvela cdilobs rom
am talRas ar CamorCes da zedapirze darCes, Tundac saarCevno kodeqsze saubrisas, ukve
gauTvlelad isvrian mxolod
im samizneSi, romelsac saerTaSoriso eqspertebi, an arasamTavrobo organizaciebi umizneben. gamudmebiT gvsayveduroben,
apelireben Tanxebze, arada,
minda giTxraT, rom ministrebsac samjer SeumcirdaT xelfasi. ai, am Temaze aravin laparakobs. diax, danamati da xelfasi erTad aRebuli 5 aTas lars
Seadgens, 5 SedarebiT 15 - dan,
samjer Semcirebulia ministrebis xelfasi. vimeoreb, amaze
aravin laparakobs, magram sakmarisia romelime maRalCinosanma raRac telefoni Seisyidos, rom atydeba erTi ambavi.
_ vrceldeba xma, burjanaZe, kukava da inaSvili alianss
qmnian da `qarTul ocnebas~ vadaze adre Caanacvlebeno, Tanac
ivaniSvilTan yvelaferi SeTanxmebuliao, amaze ras gvetyviT?
_ eg aris zRapari. aba ra,
rasakvirvelia. inaSvili politikur asparezze samarTlianobis droSiT axla gamoCnda, Tanac sakmaod radikaluri gancxadebebiT. es politikuri
jgufi nacionaluri moZraobisadmi radikaluri moTxovnebis
talRaze aRzevda. rac Seexeba burjanaZes didi xania poli-
tikur asparezzea da misi pozicia, sagareo da saSinaoc
aris radikalurad gansxvavebuli imisgan, rasac `qarTuli
ocneba~ misdevs. am xmebs nacionalebi yrian. burjanaZis dakavSireba `qarTul ocnebasTan~
maTi gadarCenis erTaderTi saSualebaa. cdiloben dasavleTi
daarwmunon, rom mxolod eseni
arian maTi erTguli biWebi,
qarTuli ocneba ki putinis
gzas misdevs, maSin, rodesac
mTeli msoflio putinis politikisadmi dapirispirebaSia. ai,
primitiulad, rom vTqvaT, es
formulaa. yvela Tema, rasac
odnavi safuZveli aqvs, an ar
aqvs, zogi nebsiT da zogic
uneblied, iTqmeba, yovelTvis
moxdeba am Temebis tiraJireba
da es icodeT, magram erTi ramec minda icodeT, yvela ekonomikuri maCvenebeli, romelic
avtoritetulma saerTaSoriso organizaciam dado, aris gacilebiT gaumjobesebuli, vidre iyo,
es aris biznesis keTebis
saSualeba, es aris stabiluroba, es aris socialuri Temebis maRal doneze menejmenti da uamravi sxva sakiTxi. diax, yvelaferi aris cnobili,
yvelaferi dadebulia da
aqedan gamomdinare nebismieri sakiTxi, minda davubrunde pirvel, batoni
iuri vazagaSvilis Temas,
ai, misi ganadgureba swored yvelaferi amis sawinaaRmdegod aris mimarTuli. ase rom, sazogadoebas Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT vurCevdi, rom wynarad
iyos, gadawyvetilebebi miiRos
logikuri analizis safuZvelze da nu ayveba `nacionaluri
moZraobis~ mier inicirebul
Worebs.
_ Tqveni azriT, rogor ganviTardeba movlenebi, jerjerobiT arc erTi gaxmaurebuli
mkvleloba ar gamouZiebia prokuraturas?!
_ yvela saqme praqtikulad
bolomdea miyvanili, es saqmeebi ukve sasamarTloSia, igive
zurab Jvaniasa da buta robaqiZis. yvela gaxmaurebuli mkvlelobebi, faqtobrivad, gamoZiebulia. Tuki es gaxmaurebuli
mkvlelobebi xdeboda `nacionaluri moZraobis~ xelisuflebis pirobebSi da amaze sazogadoeba da maTi oponentebi saubrobdnen, qveynis SigniT da gareT dRes vazagaSvilis mkvlelobam kidev erTi Tema wamowia,
rom ara xelisuflebis brZane-
biT moklulni, ara, aseTi, magram sastiki mkvlelobebi Turme `qarTuli ocnebis~ xelisuflebis drosac xdeba. aqedan
gamomdinare, es kidev erTi damatebiTi eWvia imisa, Tu vis
awyobda batoni iuri vazagaSvilis sikvdili. awyobdaT imaT,
visac qveyanaSi destabilizacia
undaT, visac unda daanaxos sazogadoebas _ axlac xdeba
mkvlelobebio. magram vin Cai-
dina es mkvleloba, es sxva sakiTxia, Caidina sxva aris, vis
awyobda ki sxva. da Caidina SeiZleba iman, visac awyobda destabilizacia da undaT, rom vifiqroT, rom visac awyobda
iuras sikvdili, imis Cadenilia
da awyobda, namdvilad, `nacionalur moZraobas~, es calsaxad. magram vinc Caidina, ar
niSnavs, rom, visac awyobda,
iman Caidina, vinc Caidina,
awyobs swored, rom miuTiTos
imaze, rom imaTi Cadenili SeiZleba iyos. meore mxriv, miuTiTos imaze, rom xelisufleba ar aris Zlieri imdenad, rom
aseTi danaSaulobebi aRkveTos
da es mTlianobaSi mimarTulia
imisken, rom destabilizacia
moxdes. e.i. xelisuflebasac
mniSvnelovnad urtyams es
mkvleloba da metsac getyviT,
imasac urtyams, visac es
mkvleloba awyobda, anu Cvens
oponentebs. maTze eWvs giCens
da xelisuflebis mimarT kidev
cud damokidebulebas giCens,
ase rom, gamoZieba Zalian rTuli amocanis winaSe dgas.
_ mosalodnelia Tu ara
sxva seriozuli samTavrobo
cvlilebebic, RaribaSvili am
ambavs gadayvebao...
_ absoluturad mosalodneli iyo, rom gagrZeldeboda
aseTi propagandistuli Semotevebi. me ar velodebi cvlilebebs, RaribaSvils, rogorc
inteleqtualuri, aseve organizaciuli resursi gaaCnia,
rom warmatebulad marTos es
qveyana. sazogadoebasac sifrTxile marTebs gadawyvetilebebis miRebisas, magram, rodesac
socialuri problemebi dgas
qveyanaSi, maSin gabrazebuli
adamianis propagandaze ayolieba aris Zalian advili. amitom
pirveli amocana da gamowveva
qveynisTvis samuSao adgilebis
Seqmna da investiciebis ganxorcielebaa. arc erTi investori ar Semova qveyanaSi, sadac denTis suni trialebs.
swored aqedan aris ganpirobebuli ruseTTan molaparakebebis procesis ar SeCereba, aqedan aris ganpirobebuli aucilebloba imisa, rom ar gadauxvio kanons da ar daiwyo terori oponentis mimarT da bevri
sxva sakiTxebi, romlebic ukavSirdeba momavali Taobis keTildReobas.
qeTi xomeriki
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saerTo gazeTi
interviu saxelmwifo rw munebulTan qvemo qarTlis regionSi, baton paata xizanaSvilTan..
_ batono paata,
mas Semdeg, rac
Tqven saxelmwifo rwmunebuli
gaxdiT, erTi
Tve
gavida.
sakmaod rTul
regionSi mogiwevT moRvaweoba, Tumca
`sa-
#2 (314), 28.I, 2015 w.
aRmoCenas da imis dadasturebas, risic ase sjeroda _ rom
swored aqedan iwyeboda ara
mxolod saqarTvelos istoria.
es yvelaferi imitomac
giambeT, rom giTxraT _
Cemi fesvebiT, Cemi winaprebiT mWidrod var dakavSirebuli qvemo qarTlTan. amiT Tqvens SekiTxvas
nawilobriv vupasuxe.
garda amisa, ormocwliani SromiTi gamocdileba
maqvs, mimuSavia sxvadasxva
sapasuxismgeblo Tanamdebobze, bolo
9 wlis ganmav-
qvemo qarTlis regioni
qvemo qarTlis farTobia 6,5 aTasi kv.km.,
qveynis teritoriis 9,3%.
regionis mosaxleobis raodenoba 511,2
aTasia, rac saqarTvelos mosaxleobis 11,4%s Seadgens.
regionSi Sedis 347 dasaxlebuli punqti
_ 7 qalaqi, 6 daba da 334 sofeli.
regionis mosaxleobis 39% cxovrobs qalaqebsa da dabebSi, xolo 61% _ soflebSi.
maRalmTian dasaxlebebs miekuTvneba dmanisis municipalitetis 19, walkis municipalitetis 46 da TeTriwyaros municipalitetis
35 sofeli.
mosaxleobis 44,7% eTnikurad qarTvelia,
45,1% _ azerbaijaneli, 6,4% _ somexi, xolo 3,8% _ afxazi, osi, rusi, berZeni, ukra ineli da qurTi.
qvemo qarTlis regionSi moqmedebs 7 TviT mmarTveli erTeuli: TviTmmarTveli qalaqi
rusTavi da bolnisis, gardabnis, dmanisis,
TeTriwyaros, marneulisa da walkis municipalitetebi.
regionalur doneze saxelmwifos aRmasru lebel xelisuflebas warmoadgens saxelmwifo rwmunebuli-ggubernatori, romlis administracia q. rusTavSia ganTavsebuli.
Cemi, rogorc regionis
xelmZRvanelis, upirvelesi amocanaa,
mravaleTnikuri qvemo qarTli
yvela iq mcxovrebisTvis
Tavis samSoblod aRiqmebodes
erTo gazeTs~ TqvenTan ramdenimejer hqonda interviu, gic nobT da viciT Tqveni SesaZ leblobebis Sesaxeb, ganvlil
gzazec gvaqvs warmodgena, mag ram mainc gkiTxavT _ rogor
gadawyda am Tanamdebobaze
Tqveni daniSvna, ra uZRoda win
yovelive amas?
_ saqarTvelo Cveni samSobloa, qvemo qarTli ki _ Cemi
patara samSoblo. es marTlac
asea _ me xom dmaniseli var,
sofel gomareTidan. Cemi winaprebis ramdenime Taobac am
miwaze cxovrobda.
mogexsenebaT, 2012 wlis saparlamento arCevnebSi dmanisis
raionis maJoritarad viyridi
kenWs da saarCevno kampaniis
drosac, rasakvirvelia, aqtiurad vTanamSromlobdi qvemo
qarTlis sxva raionebTanac. aq
bevri naTesavi, nacnobi da axlobeli myavs, bevr patiosan
adamians vicnob am mxareSi.
es aris adgili, sadac davibade da gavizarde. Cems mSobliur gomareTSi Svidi eklesia, maTgan erT-erTi xizanaanT
salocavia. iqvea xizanaanT gora. gomareTs Tavze gadmohyurebs XI saukunis bazilikis
tipis ulamazesi eklesia, romlis siaxlovesac aris xizanaanT wyaro. es toponimebi imaze metyvelebs, rom aq xizanaSvili erT-erTi ZirZveli gvaria. saxeli xizana
Zvelsparsulad meamboxes
niSnavs da im wyaros saxelwodebac uSualod Cemi
meamboxe winapris saxels
ukavSirdeba.
pedagogebis ojaxSi gavizarde. mamaCemi istorikosi iyo, Zveli romis istoriis specialisti, Tumca
SesaniSnavad icoda msoflios yvela drois istoria. xSirad ambobda xolme,
dmanisi evropis samSobloao. guli mwydeba, rom
mama ver moeswro dmanisis
naqalaqaris arqeologiur
gaTxrebs, zezvasa da mzias
lobaSi ki `bank qarTuSi~ bankis aqtivebis samsaxurs vxelmZRvanelobdi. arCevnebSi koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ gamarjvebis Semdeg ramdenimejer SemomTavazes samTavrobo struqturaSi muSaoba, magram vfiqrobdi, rom im etapze iq ufro
saWiro viyavi, sadac vmuSaobdi, anu bankisTvis. amitomac
gadawyvetilebis miRebas ar
vCqarobdi. Cemi mSoblebis ojaxSic da sanaTesaoSic sazogadoebrivi, saqveyno saqme yvelaze mniSvnelovnad miaCndaT, xolo piraduli yovelTvis ukana
planze inacvlebda. am tradiciebiT aRmzardes mec.
rom giTxraT, am Tanamdebobaze mosaxvedrad rame iniciativa gamoviCine-meTqi, ar iqneba marTali. gadawyvetileba
umaRles doneze miiRes. Zalian kargad micnobs premier-ministri, yofili premier-ministri Cemi studentobis megobaria, prezidentTanac da qalaqis merTanac kargi urTierToba maqvs da es yvelaferi dRes
ar dawyebula. didi xania vicnob bevr Tanamdebobis pirs,
maT, vinc axla saqarTvelos
beds warmarTavs.
maT mSvenivrad icodnen,
rom Cemi fesvebiT qvemo qarTlTan var dakavSirebuli, vici,
Tu ra problemebis winaSe
dgas mTlianad es regioni, rac
mTavaria, mendoba aqauri mosaxleoba, maT Soris mendobian
azerbaijanelebic, romlebic
procentulad qvemo qarTlis
regionis umravlesobas Seadgenen. aqve vityvi, rom vsaubrob
azerbaijanuladac da somxuradac. da erT-erTi yvelaze mniSvnelovani aspeqti, ris gamoc am
mxareSi rwmunebulad Cemi daniSvnis gadawyvetileba miiRes _
es aris wlebis
ganmavlobaSi regionSi dagrovili problemebis
mogvarebis Cemeuli gegma.
_ Tqveni da niSvnis period Sive anzor CubiniZesa da mirian
mWedliSvils sapasuxismgeblo
Tanamdebobebi andes. maTze amboben, rom isini wesieri adamianebi arian. am xelisuflebas
sakadro politikas uwunebden
da bolodroindeli daniSvne biT, rogorc Cans, seriozuli
nabijebi gadaidga am xarvezis
gamosasworeblad...
_ unda dageTanxmoT. marTlac saintereso gadawyvetilebebi miiRes. kadrebis sakiTxi
mxolod am xelisuflebis
problema rodia. igi TiTqmis
yvela drois yvela xelisuflebisTvis
garkveulwilad
problemuric iyo da mniSvnelovanic.
turasa da xelovnebis istoriasTan; miuxedavad amisa, mxareTmcodneobis fakultetzec
vswavlobdiT da teqnikuri
sagnebi, mrewvelobis ekonomika
an organizacia-dagegmvis specialoba sulac ar gviSlida
xels, magaliTad imaSi, rom
Zveli qarTuli damwerloba,
Tanamdebobebze, ra Tqma unda, SemTxveviTi adamianebi ar
unda iniSnebodnen. pirovnebas
unda hqondes progresuli
msoflmxedveloba, rwmena, faseulobaTa swori sistema da
kargia, rom Cvenma xelisuflebam aqcenti gadaitana aseT
mTlian, gawonasworebul profesionalebze. es kargi
tendenciaa.
anzor CubiniZe da mirian mWedliSvili swored am TvisebebiT arian
dajildoebuli, isini SesaniSnavi pirovnebebi arian.
maxsovs, studentobisas, mirian mWedliSvilze
Cveni leqtori ambobda,
qarTuli da rusuli
klasikuri literatura
SesaniSnavad iciso. Cveni
ZiriTadi saswavlo disciplinebi _ masalaTa
gamZleoba, mxazvelobiTi
geometria, liTonmWreli
Carxebi da iaraRebi da
a.S. TiTqos SeuTavsebeli
unda yofiliyo litera-
Zveli qarTuli mwerloba, istoria da kultura Segveswavla.
_ ra problemebs xedavdiT
qvemo qarTlSi, ase vTqvaT,
Soridan da ra dagxvdaT, ro ca ukve iq CaxvediT, rogorc
regionis xelmZRvaneli?
_ iq arsebuli problemebis
Sesaxeb, rogorc ukve aRvniSne, CemTvis imTaviTve iyo cnobili. axla, ra Tqma unda, ufro detalurad da siRrmiseulad gavecani yvelafers.
erT Tveze odnav metia, rac
regionis rwmunebul-gubernatorad daviniSne, magram miuxedavad ase mcire droisa, SeiZleba iTqvas, TiTqmis yvela
kuTxe-kunWuli moviare, sistematurad davdivar raionebSi,
soflebSi, piradad vxvdebi
aqaur mkvidr mosaxleobas. intensiuri jgufuri Sexvedrebic Cveni yoveldRiurobaa.
sxvanairad warmoudgenelia.
gamocxadebuli maqvs, ase
vTqvaT, `Ria karis urTierTo-
saerTo gazeTi
#2 (314), 28.I, 2015 w.
ba~. ar aris dRe, romelic moqalaqeTa miRebas ar iTvaliswinebs. mosaxleoba mowyurebulia xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebTan Sexvedras, radgan
maT amis SesaZlebloba wina
wlebSi ar gaaCndaT.
maTTan Sexvedrebze axali
TiTqmis araferi gamigia _ aqaurTa yvela ZiriTadi problemis Sesaxeb isedac vuwyodi.
Cven msoflmxedveloba da
rwmena vaxseneT da swored
rwmena, xvalindeli dRis rwmena da imedi aris is, rac am
adamianebs sWirdebaT, rac ase
akliaT. rwmena daimedi ki mosaxleobisa da xelisuflebis
warmomadgenlebs Soris erToblivad unda daibados.
_ miuxedavad imisa, rom
jer erTi Tvea, rac regionSi
CaxvediT, mosaxleobisgan mxo lod kargi gvesmis Tqvenze.
_ uamrav adamians Sevxvdi
da erTi Zalze saintereso ram
SevamCnie _ mosaxleobis 80
procenti ar iTxovs materialur daxmarebas, Tumca, unda
giTxraT, rom namdvilad ar
ulxinT. maTi ZiriTadi saWiroeba sulieri Tanadgomaa.
isini e.w. mxardamWers eZeben.
Tu dainaxes, rom maTnairad da
maTs satkivarze fiqrob da
gulwrfeli xar, icode, rom
isini Sens mxares arian da erTad saqmis keTebac sulac
aRar iqneba saZnelo. xalxi,
ubralo adamianebi imwamsve
xvdebian, `maTiani~ xar, giyvars isini Tu ara. ar unda
iTamaSo, gulwrfeli unda
iyo. rogorc ki TvalTmaqcobas
daiwyeb, isev gacivdeba urTierTobebi, daSordebi xalxs da
iseve dagiwyeben yurebas, rogorc wina xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs uyurebdnen.
batoni biZina jer
kidev arCevenebamde ambobda, Cven xalxs unda vemsaxuroT, aqtiurad unda SevuwyoT xeli ideebis ganxorcielebaSi, magram es ar
unda
gulisxmobdes
calmxriv damokidebulebas, erTmaneTs unda
avsebdes, erTobliv mizans unda emsaxurebodeso.
_ ra ideebi aqvs,
ra ainteresebs qvemo
qarTlis mosaxleobas?
_ qvemo qarTli
mdidari regionia. wamyvani dargi aris soflis meurneoba, magram
mZlavri samrewvelo kompleqsebic arsebobs. ukve daiwyo
investiciebis
Semodinebac.
xalxma dainaxa, rom axalma xelisuflebam xalxze zrunva
daiwyo da isinic yoveldRe
modian axali ideebiT; gaaqtiurdnen investorebi, patara
kooperativebiT
dawyebuli,
msxvili kompaniebiT gagrZelebuli da vfiqrob, maTi aqtiuroba regionis mosaxleobis
keTildReobas waadgeba.
Tavis droze nacionalebma
Seqmnes qvemo qarTlis ganviTarebis sainvesticio saagento,
romelic daregistrirebuli
iyo rogorc arasamewarmeo
iuridiuli piri. es organizacia maT regionis
gansaviTareblad ar SeuqmniaT, sxva miznebi
amoZravebdaT _ `fulis
gasaTeTreblad~ iyenebdnen. Cveni amocanaa, es
struqtura
marTlac
rom qvemo qarTlis ganviTarebis saagentod vaqcioT. yvela, vinc Cvens
regionSi investiciebis
ganxorcielebas gadawyvets, maT davaxvedrebT
mza kvlevebs, mza garemos, raTa Zalian mokle
droSi ganaxorcielon
proeqtebi.
_ qvemo qarTlis mo saxleobis didi nawili
araqarTvelia, ufro meti
azerbaijanuli mosaxleobaa.
rogor warmogidgeniaT maTi
Semdgomi ufro mWidro integracia qarTul sinamdvilesTan?
miT ufro, rom qvemo qarTlis
mosaxleobas uyurebdnen ro gorc saarCevno xmebis `be Rels~, maTi moqalaqeobrivi
poziciebi ki ugulebelyofili
iyo.
_ azerbaijanelebi iseve
arian Cveni qveynis moqalaqeebi,
rogorc somxebi, berZnebi,
afxazebi, osebi da sxvebi. Cven
Tanacxovrebis mravalsaukunovani gamocdileba dagvigrovda
da mniSvnelovania, es gamocdileba Cveni samSoblos samsaxurSi CavayenoT _ Cven xom erTi didi muxis _ saqarTvelos
fesvebi varT. Cemi muSaobis
erT-erTi ZiriTadi mimarTulebac swored es iqneba _ gavixsenoT da davubrundeT Cvens
fesvebs.
rac xmaTa `beRelze~ brZaneT, absoluturi simarTlea
da es iyo namdvili Zaladoba
am patiosan da wesier adamianebze.
batonma biZina ivaniSvilma
rogorc amboben, nacionalebma
TiToeuli xmis safasurad sakmaod didi Tanxa gadauxades
iqaur amomrCevels. roca dRes
maT vxvdebi, aSkarad vgrZnob,
rogor euxerxulebaT Cadenili saqcielis gamo. koalicia
`qarTuli ocnebis~ gamarjvebiT am mavne praqtikas bolo
moeRo da imedi viqonioT, rom
igi aRarasodes ganmeordeba.
_ regionSi, misi mravaleT nikurobis gaTvaliswinebiT,
yovelTvis arsebobda saxelm wifo enis Seswavlisa da misi
gamoyenebis problema...
_ es erT-erTi yvelaze seriozuli problemaa da mis
mosagvareblad aseve seriozuli nabijebia gadasadgmeli. ukve SemuSavebuli proeqtebis
ganxorcielebiT
problemas
nel-nela davZlevT. am mxriv
intensiuri muSaobaa saWiro
skolebSi.
eTnikuri jgufebis integraciisTvis mniSvnelovnad mimaCnia jansaRi cxovrebis wesis danergva. am procesSi unda monawileodnen azerbaijanelebi, somxebi, berZnebi, yvelanairi warmomavlobis mosaxleoba. unda gavaCinoT saxelmwi-
rusTavSi winasaarCevno aqciaze sagangebod aRniSna, rom wina xelisuflebis dros TaRliTurad arTmevdnen xmebs
tomara fqvilis, Saqris an
fulis sanacvlod da amiT Tavisuflebas, Tavisufali arCevnis uflebas arTmevdnen
xalxs.
qvemo qarTlSi aTjer meti
xma miviReT, vidre odesme miuRia opoziciur partias, xmebis umravlesobiT nacionalebma `gamarjveba~ miiTvises.
dmanisis raionSi irganCai,
yamarlo, yarabulaxi da sxv.
azerbaijanelebiT dasaxlebuli yvelaze didi soflebia.
fo enis codnis moTxovnileba
da imavdroulad, Cvenc unda
vecadoT da SeviswavloT im
eTnosebis ena, romlebsac
sacxovrisad Cveni qveyana ergoT.
ganaTlebis saministro am
mimarTulebiT bevr saintereso
proeqts axorcielebs da yvelafers gavakeTebT, rom Cveni
monawileobiT es procesi ufro swrafi tempiT warimarTos.
piradad me azerbaijanulis
erT-erT dialeqtze, urumebis
Turqul dialeqtze vsaubrob
bavSvobidan, radgan maT Soris
bevri megobari myavda.
_ gzebi, eleqtroenergia,
wyali am regionisTvisac mniSvnelovani problemaa...
_ geTanxmebiT, saparlamento arCevnebis Semdeg qvemo
qarTlSi bevri proeqti daiwyo da ukve dasrulda kidec.
es ar iyo fasaduri proeqtebi, romlebsac ase SeaCvia mosaxleoba saakaSvilma. es marTlac realuri proeqtebia,
romlebiTac wyliT momaragebis, gzebis, sairigacio da sxva infrastruqturuli problemebi gadaiWra. am mxriv saministroebi da adgilobrivi
municipalitetebi SeTanxmebulad muSaoben. 2015-2017 wlebSi regionisTvis sasicocxlod aucilebeli RonisZiebebia dagegmili.
ramdenime dRis win 4-milionian proeqts movawere xeli.
xuTi didi sofeli _ martyofi, norio, axali sofeli, axali samgori da vaziani, romlebSic 70 aTasi kaci cxovrobs, uwyvetad miiRebs sasmel
wyals. marneulsa da bolnisSi
evropis ganviTarebisa da rekonstruqciis bankis daxmarebiT ramdenime proeqti ganxorcieldeba...
arsebobs saqarTvelos
mTavrobis mier SemuSavebuli qvemo qarTlis ganviTarebis strategiuli
gegma 2014-2021 wlebisTvis da misi Sesruleba
etapobrivad mimdinareobs.
_ Tqveni administracia qalaq rusTavSia. es
iyo qalaqi, romelic in dustriuli perspeqtivebisTvis Seiqmna. samwuxarod, dRes aqac bevri
problemaaa...
_ mogexsenebaT, rusTavi didi istoriis mqone
internacionaluri qalaqia, romelSic mSromeli
da gamrje xalxi cxovrobs. samwuxarod, bolo periodSi marTlac rom qarTuli
industriis burji, ufunqciod
datoves. axla, axali xelisuflebis pirobebSi, yvelaferi unda gakeTdes saimisod,
rom rusTavma odindeli funqcia daibrunos da rusTavelebi welSi gaimarTon.
amuSavda
metalurgiuli
qarxana, muSaobs agreTve sawarmoo gaerTianeba `azoti~
da maTi produqcia ucxoeTSi
igzavneba. igegmeba Tanamedrove
maRalteqnologiuri sawarmos
amuSaveba, sadac mosaxleobis
mniSvnelovani nawili dasaqmdeba.
roca mewarmes aqvs imedi,
rom mis mier Seqmnil sawarmos
ar waarTmeven, mas uCndeba damatebiTi motivacia, kidev ufro ganaviTaros igi da meti investicia Cados masSi. Cven ukve
vamkvidrebT aseT samewarmeo
klimats da muSaxelze moTxovnilebac TandaTan izrdeba.
aseve vgegmavT, qvemo qarTlis ganviTarebis sainvesticio
saagentos bazaze daviwyoT
sxvadasxva specialistis momzadeba-gadamzadeba moTxovnad
profesiebze. es Seexeba maT,
vinc muSaobda, magaliTad metalurgiaSi an daTxovnilia
samxedro samsaxuridan, an gasulia pensiaze, daexura warmoeba da usamsaxurod darCa.
_ qvemo qarTli TiTqos
erTi mTliani muzeumia. aqvea
saydrisis istoriuli Zeglic.
am kuTxiTac Zalian mniSvnelovan adgilas aRmoCndiT. bolos
da bolos, qvemo qarTli zezvas da mzias samSobloa...
_ SemiZlia vTqva, fexiT
maqvs Semovlili mTeli qvemo
qarTli mamasTan erTad. yofila SemTxveva, mivdiodiT tyeSi, sruliad ukacriel adgilas da uceb xis fesvebSi Tvali mogvikravs surisTvis,
qoTnisTvis, mipovia Zveli isrebi... aqauroba Cveni istoriaa... misi gafrTxileba CvenTvis umniSvnelovanesi amocanaa.
regionSi arsebuli kulturul-istoriuli Zeglebis
konservacia, maTi dacva da
movla umniSvnelovanesi amocanaa. unda avaSenoT Tanamedrove
muzeumebi raionebSi, romlebic
regionis kulturis centrad
gadaiqcevian. maTSi Tavs movuyriT im istoriul artefaqtebs, romlebic am teritoriebzea aRmoCenili.
qvemo qarTlSi _ bolnisis,
TeTri wyarosa da walkis raionebSi arsebobda germanelTa
kompaqturi dasaxlebebi. gasuli saukunis 40-ian wlebSi
isini Sua aziaSi gaasaxles. magaliTad, sofel asureTSi SemorCenilia 250-mde germanuli
sacxovrebeli saxli, TiTqmis
xeluxleblad aris Semonaxuli sayofacxovrebo iaraRebi,
marnebi, yurZnis sawurebi. 7
Tebervals germaniidan gvestumreba arqiteqtorTa jgufi,
romelic qarTvel specialistebTan erTad SeimuSavebs am
soflis reabilitaciis gegmas.
Seiqmneba regionis turistuli
centri _ germanuli sofelieTnografiuli muzeumi. es,
faqtobrivad, arapirdapirdapiri investiciaa.
qvemo qarTli, TiTqmis
mTlianad, Ria cis qveS muzeumia da turistuli infrastruqturis ganviTareba Cveni
erT-erTi mniSvnelovani amocanaa.
Cemi, rogorc regionis xelmZRvanelis upirvelesi amocanaa mravaleTnikuri qvemo qarTli yvela iq mcxovrebisTvis
aRiqmebodes rogorc Tavisi
samSoblo da TiToeuls Tavisi wvlili Sehqondes Cveni qveynis gamTlianebisa da aRorZinebis saqmeSi. saqarTvelo samSoblo unda iyos TiToeuli
maTganisTvis.
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saerTo gazeTi
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vin cdilobs biZina ivaniSvilis da
saqarTvelos mosaxleobis daSinebas?
iuri vazagaSvilze ganxorcielebuli teraqtis Semdeg socialur qselebSi momentalurad ifeTqa sagangaSo informaciam imis Sesaxeb,
rom teqraqti mzaddeba ivaniSvilis winaaRmdegac.
am `postebis~ mixedviT
Znelia gaarkvio, ras eyrdnoba gavrcelebuli informacia
mosalodneli teraqtis Sesaxeb, saidan iRebs saTaves
es informacia, vin aris pirvelwyaro da, saerTod, ras
warmoadgens es informacia _
viRacebis mier mosaxleobaSi
panikis da SiSis dasanergad
mizanmimarTulad gavrcelebul Wors Tu realurad arsebuli raRac gegmis amsaxvel Zalze mniSvnelovan
gzavnils?
cxadia, iuri vazagaSvilis mkvlelobis avtorebi
erTdroulad ramdenime seriozuli miznis ganxorcielebas cdilobdnen, maT Soris umTavresi da upirvele-
si mizani mainc sazogadoebaSi arastabilurobis da daucvelobis atmosferos Seqmnaa, rasac am vandaluri aqtis damgegmavebma nawilobriv
miaRwies kidec.
rogorc irkveva, batoni
iuri am tragikul SemTxvevamde ramdenime dRiT adre
biZina ivaniSvils Sexvedria
da vrceli saubari hqonia
misi Svilis, zura vazagaSvilis, mkvlelobis axal garemoebebTan dakavSirebiT.
cxadia,
teraqtis
damgegmavebma icodnen
es da TiTqos specialurad moiyvanes sisruleSi TavianTi boroti ganzraxva am Sexvedridan
ramdenime
dReSi, riTac yvela gaafrTxiles: _ Cven veravin gadagveRobeba
win, veravin ver SegviSlis xels da veravin
SegvaCerebs. Tqven veravin ver giSveliT da
veravin ver
d a g i c a v T,
maT
Soris
ver
dagicavT biZina ivaniSvilic ki
_ aseTia im mesijis SinaarSi,
romelic iuri
vazagaSvilis mkvlelebma mTel
saqarTvelos gaugzavnes.
am
mesijis
pirdapiri gagrZeleba
unda
iyos biZina ivaniSvilze SesaZlo Tavdasxmis
Sesaxeb gavrcelebuli xmebi _
daucvelia ara
mxolod rigiTi
moqalaqe, aramed
daucvelia TviT
biZina ivaniSvili da, saerTod,
mTeli qveyana _
ase iSifreba am sagangaSo informaciis qveteqsti.
biZina ivaniSvilis daSinebis da masze fsiqologiuri
zewolis mcdelobebi axla
ar dawyebula. amas didi xnis
istoria aqvs da es istoria
ivaniSvilis
politikaSi
mosvlamde ori wliT adre
daiwyo.
gaxsovT, albaT, rogori
intensiurobiT vrceldeboda
qarTul mediaSi informaciebi, rom biZina ivaniSvili
yvelafers yidis da saqarTvelodan midis. sabednierod,
es `winaswarmetyvelebebi~
ukuRma axda da biZina ivaniSvili wasvlis nacvlad politikaSi movida.
politikaSi mosvlis Semdegac axali enTuziazmiT
gagrZelda ivaniSvilis `dateroreba~ misi `keTilismyofelebis~ mxridan axal-axali WorebiT da skandaluri
`informaciebiT~...
erTi-orjer erTma Jurnalistma qalbatonma `ixsna~
ivaniSvili
mosalodneli
`teraqtisgan~, romelic, savaraudod, am qalbatonis sawer magidaze, mis mierve iyo
`dagegmili~, romlis xelmZRvaneladac
misTvis
da
`nacmoZraobisTvis~ arasasurveli piri iyo dasaxelebuli.
qalbatoni xSir-xSirad
Seaxsenebda xolme ivaniSvils, rom swored man ixsna
igi didi faTerakisgan, ivaniSvilma ki `mxsnels~ damsaxureba ar daufasa.
amasobaSi meore `mxsnelic~ gamoCnda erT-erTi gazeTis saxiT, romelmac ramdenime sensaciuri statia gamoaqveyna Tavis furclebze,
sadac ivaniSvils dabejiTebiT arwmunebdnen, rom misi
biznescentri
sololakSi
radiumze dgas da gardauvali katastrofis Tavidan
asacileblad aucilebelia
misi saswrafod dacla da am
momakvdinebeli zonidan garideba.
ivaniSvilma
arc
es
`utyuari~ informacia daijera da dRemde agrZelebs
muSaobas `radiaqtiur~ zonaSi.
aqve minda aRvniSno erTi
ram: xelisuflebis saTanado
organoebma, rogorc Cans, ar
ician presis sworad wakiTxva, Torem Cvens yviTel mediaSi absoluturad zustad
Cans, vin riTi sunTqavs, vin
visgan finansdeba, vin vis davalebebs asrulebs, ra procesebi midis politikur
cxovrebaSi, vin ras apirebs
da vin ras gegmavs.
eleqtronuli
Tu
beWduri mediis asineTebad qceul im warmomadgenlebs, romlebic
politikur SekveTebs
asruleben da biZina
ivaniSvilis daSantaJebas da daSinebas cdiloben, erTi ram aviwy-
irakli RaribaSvilis Tavs
moiTxoven da bolomde ibrZoleben imisTvis, rom es sawadelic Seisrulon, aqedan
ki erTi nabijia riggareSe
saparlamento arCevnebis moTxovnamdec.
ase rom, iuri vazagaSvilis amfeTqeblebma Zalian
bevri umniSvnelovanesi amocana Cades am erT afeTqebaSi.
Tu farTod ganvixilavT iuri vazagaSvilis mkvlelobis faqts, im daskvnamde mivalT, rom es politikuri xasiaTis mkvlelobaa, lamis saxelmwifo gadatrialebis
tolfasi qmedebaa da
ara mxolod piradi angariSsworeba arasasurveli oponentis winaaRmdeg.
gamoZieba Tu am gziT wavida da vazagaSvilze ganxorcielebul teraqtebSi
debaT: _ biZina ivaniSvili mSiSara kaci rom
yofiliyo, arc `nacionalur~ bandasTan omSi
Caebmeboda da arc politikaSi gaereoda.
ase rom, tyuilad irjebiT Tqven, pativcemulo asineTebo da tyuilad TxzavT
am koSmarul Worebs.
iuri vazagaSvilis mkvlelobis organizatorebma am
aqtiT kidev erTi seriozuli amocana Seasrules _ maT
umZimesi dartyma miayenes
irakli RaribaSvils da mis
samTavrobo gunds.
pirveli Sedegi ukve saxezea _ Sss ministri, romelic RaribaSvilis kacad moiazreboda, gadadga.
vin iqneba Semdegi?
darwmunebuli var, male
gamoCndebian Zalebi, romlebic momdevno msxverplad
mxolod piradi angariSswortebis motivebis Zebna
daiwyo, mas aucileblad ganze darCeba am mkvlelobis
mTavari motivi da mTavari
mizani.
viRacebi Tvlian, rom ar
aris gamoricxuli, 20 ianvris teraqts axlo xanebSi
sxva teraqtebic mohyves da
es yvelaferi manamde gagrZeldes, sanam saqme samoqalaqo dapirispirebamde ar
miva.
es cudi prognozi rom ar
axdes, swored amitom aris
saWiro da aucilebeli iuri
vazagaSvilis
mkvlelobis
saqmis rac SeiZleba male gamoZieba, rac erTgvari prevencia iqneba mosalodneli
safrTxeebis aRsakveTaT.
giorgi
gamezardaSvili
MK
`saerTo gazeTis~ damateba
meSvide klasels mamam anderZi dautova: Svilo, qveyana
mxolod da mxolod erT SemTxvevaSi daingreva, roca
afxazebsa da qarTvelebs Soris konfliqti moxdeba. amitom, yvelaferi gaakeTe, raTa
giyvardes afxazi, qarTveli da
maTi Zmobis gwamdeso. wlebis
Semdeg, qarTul-afxazurma saomarma konfliqtma marTlac
Seiwira saxelmwifo. omis periodSi, erTaderTi maRalCinosani iyo, vinc brZolis velze uiaraRod daabijebda, radgan am Zmobis swamda da icoda
rom erTmaneTi sasikvdilod
ar unda gagvemetebina. oTar
xufeniam `saerTo gazeTTan~
saubari swored 1992 wlis
movlenebis SefasebiT daiwyo:
_ Cemi Rrma rwmeniT, 1992
wlis omi, im Secdomebis kulminacia iyo, romelic qarTvelTa da afxazTa urTierTobaSi didi xnis ganmavlobaSi
mwifdeboda. dResac ki, qarTvelTa da afxazTa garkveul
nawils, orTaves, saubedurod
miaCniaT, rom Cven erTmaneTis
istoriuli mtrebi varT. arada, istoriulad, saqme absoluturad piriqiTaa. gvaviwydeba, rom saqarTvelos yvelaze did da warmatebul epoqaSi didi daviTis titulatura
ase iwyeboda: mefe afxazTa...
anu Cveni saxelmwifoebriobis
warmatebuli istoria erToblivad iwyeba. arc afxazebs da
arc qarTvelebs ar axsovT,
roca ereklem ruseTis imperiasTan traqtati dado, igi, ara
sruliad saqarTvelos, aramed
mxolod da mxolod qarTlkaxeTs warmoadgenda. unda
davfiqrdeT imaze, rom afxazeTis samTavro iyo bolo, romelic am traqtats mravali
wlis mere miuerTda. dRes xom
SegviZlia vTqvaT, maT, maSindeli gagebiT, avtonomiuroba
hqondaT. kidev erT faqts SegaxsenebT, rac gaanalizebas
saWiroebs: 1921-31 wlebSi
afxazeTs sabWoTa imperiaSi
respublikis statusi hqonda
da mere, Wkvian qarTvelTa da
afxazTa ZalisxmeviT erTi
respublikis farglebSi moveqeciT. afxazeTma avtonomia
swored maSin miiRo. amiT ra
miiRwa? _ marTalia sabWoTa
imperiis farglebSi, magram
erTiani sazRvrebi, erTiani
warmonaqmni. ra Tqma unda, sabWoTa imperia rusuli imperiis xazis gamgrZelebeli iyo
da mis interesebSi Sedioda
qarTvelTa da afxazTa Soris
arsebuli istoriuli Zmoba
#2, ianvari, 2015 w.
roca afxazebma erTian saxelmwifoSi yofnas da mis damoukideblobas calsaxad dauWires mxari. Cven, samwuxarod,
araTu es ar gvaxsovs, imasac
viviwyebT, rom konstituciaSi,
romelic damoukidebelma saqarTvelom 1995 wlis 24 agvistos miiRo, axali saqarTve-
da qarTul-afxazur problemas vaigivebT, es Tema xelovnuradaa Semodgebuli. rac Seexeba, afxazebTan mimarTebaSi,
analogiur midgomas, es gaumarTleblad mimaCnia. qarTvelebi ar unda viyoT daavadebuli ufrosi Zmis kompleqsiT. es, Cven, ufro mravalricxovan erTan mimarTebaSi
gamovcadeT da gvaxsovs, rac
viwvnieT. igive Secdoma aRar
unda davuSvaT. 21-e saukuneSi,
wina saukuneebSi arsebuli
kliSeebiT azrovneba da qmedeba, tragikuli Secdomaa. magaliTad, me-19-me-20 saukuneebSi saxelmwifoebriobis xuTi
niSani iyo definicirebuli.
faqtobrivad, dRes, globalizaciis pirobebSi, arcerTi
oTar xufenia:
Cemi azriT, konstituciaSi
pirdapir unda Caiweros _
Tanamedrove saqarTvelos
damfuZneblebi qarTveli
da afxazi erebi arian
da erTianoba mtrobad, dapirispirebad eqcia, rac miiRwa
kidec. bevrs ar axsovs, rom
1992 wlis saomar mdgomareobamde, jer kidev sabWoTa kavSiris pirobebSi, garedan inspirirebuli iyo araerTi mcdeloba afxazebis e.w. damoukideblobisa da qarTul-afxazuri erTiani saxelmwifos gayofis. anu, borotebis am Teslma, romelic ori naciis dasapirispireblad garedan iyo Semogdebuli, sabolood, is saxe miiRo, rac gvaqvs. Cemi
Rrma rwmeniT, qarTvelTa da
afxazTa Soris arsebuli mravalsaukunovani
erTianobis
dasturia, sabWoTa imperiis
pirobebSi, zviad gamsaxurdias
mier Catarebuli referendumi,
los erT-erT safuZvlad swored es erTianobaa gamocxadebuli.
Cemi azriT, konstituciaSi
pirdapir unda Caiweros _ Tanamedrove saqarTvelos damfuZneblebi qarTveli da afxazi erebi arian. Tu SeamCnieT
e.w. samxreT-oseTis problemas
Segnebulad vuvli gverds.
vTvli, rom qarTvelTa da
afxazTa Soris dapirispirebaSi, qarTvelTa da osTa dapirispirebis sakiTxze msjeloba
uadgiloa. osebis istoria ar
iZleva saSualebas, rom maT
qarTuli saxelmwifos damfuZneblobaze pretenzia hqondeT. es Tema, Tavis droze, xelovnurad Sekowiwebulia. amitom, rodesac qarTul-osur
maTgani ar muSaobs. saxelmwifos daniSnuleba, risTvisac
erebi, adamianebi mas hqmnian,
Secvlilia.
Zalian Zvirfaso qarTvelebo da afxazebo, am kuTxiT
gvifiqria? _ ara! amitom,
afxazebmac da qarTvelebmac
kargad unda gaviazroT, ra
gvinda. Tu kargad davfiqrdebiT aRmoCndeba, rom orives
erTi ram gvinda _ identobis
SenarCuneba,
keTildReoba,
usafrTxoeba. sad xedavT aq
winaaRmdegobas? qarTveli Congurze rom ukravs, xolo
afxazi afxiarcaze, amaSia winaaRmdegoba? iqneb, Congursa
da afxiarcas Soris gansxvavebaze ufro mniSvnelovani is
kultura, tradiciebi, cxov-
rebis wesia, rac absoluturad, identuri da erTiani
gvaqvs. dRes afxazebs Zveli
wes-adaTi bevrad ukeT aqvT
SenarCunebuli, vidre danarCen
saqarTvelos. es naTesaobis,
mezoblobis, megobrobis, Wiris da lxinis gaziarebis, Tanadgomis instituciaa. mavani
ambobs, afxazi eri merea warmoSobilio. modiT, am sisuleleebs Tavi davaneboT da nu
veZebT imas, rac erTmaneTisgan
gvTiSavs, gvyofs, aramed realobas SevxedoT. am realobaSi daaxloebis da ara dapirispirebisa da gayofis gzebi
veZeboT. dasawyisSi vaxsene,
aTvlis wertilad 1992 wels
nu miviRebT-meTqi, cota Sors
gavixedoT,
Tundac
1988
wlisken, roca qarTveli, WeSmaritad patrioti kaci vova
vekua mokles da didma merab
kostavam maSindeli mosalodneli sisxlisRvra SeaCera.
rogor? _ qarTvelsac da
afxazsac simarTle uTxra _
es dapirispireba mtris mogonilia, romelsac Cveni daxocva, dapirispireba undao. maSin,
es, afxazmac gaigo da qarTvelmac. modiT, isic gulwrfelad vTqvaT, rac dRemde ver
gagvigia _ ramdeni qarTveli
varT iseTi, romelic saubedurod ase azrovnebs _ oh, erTi rusi ar iyos, afxazebs dedas vutirebdiTo. saubedurod, aseTi azri, afxazebSic
gaCnda _ rusi momexmareba da
qarTvelebs dedas vutirebo.
saboloo jamSi, orivem, erTmaneTs, deda marTla vutireT,
orive mxares Saosani dedebi
gvyavs.
_ batono oTar, soxumis
dacemis Semdeg, Tqven Riad
isaubreT gamomwvev mizezebze,
rac maSin televiziebma ar gaaSuqes. rogor afasebT am yvelafers dRevandeli gadmosaxedidan?
_ diax, 1993 wlis 27 seqtembers soxumi daeca da 28Si diliT Cems samuSao kabinetSi Jurnalisti mobrZanda.
man icoda Cemi warmoSobis Sesaxeb, soxumSi zustad aTjer
viyavi namyofi, aqedan, cxra-
10 gv.
Zvirfaso megobrebo, SemogvierTdiT gazeT `patriotis~ megobarTa klubSi.
informaciisTvis dagvikavSirdiT:
593 44 04 01; 597 93 93 79; (2) 14 40 19; (2) 34 28 97.
redaqciis misamarTi: Tbilisi, d.aRmaSeneblis gamz., 164, II sarT.
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9 gv.
jer omis pirobebSi, erTic
e.w. saubeduro Sesvenebis
dros. bolos, soxumidan 10
seqtembers
gadmovfrindi.
trabaxSi nu CamiTvliT, magram
am periodis saqarTvelos istoriaSi erTaderTi saxelmwifo moxele viyavi, romelic
soxumSi uiaraRod Cadioda,
TbilisSi ki, ise rogorc yvela, mec iaraRiT davdiodi.
amas, absoluturad, Segnebulad vakeTebdi, vicodi, rom
iq, aravisTvis ar unda mesrola da Tu aqeT mesrodnen, es
maTi danaSauli iqneboda. intervius xasiaTze namdvilad
ar gaxldiT, mTeli Cemi sisxli da xorci afxazeTSi iyo,
zogi Wuberis gzas adga, zogi
_ samegrelosas. interviuSi
erTi fraza vTqvi, rasac verasdros daviviwyeb, babuam
gamzarda da maswavla: roca
ori Zma erTmaneTs eomeba, arc
erTia marTali da arc meore,
magram damnaSavea is mesame,
romelic am or Zmas Soris
romelimes gaamarTlebs. es
1993 wlis 28 seqtembers
vTqvi. mesame vinc iyo, yvelam
viciT. ori dRis manZilze saqarTvelos televiziam es
fraza ar gauSva. Semdeg, roca gauSves damireka afxazmac,
osmac da madloba miTxres.
dResac ki, 21 wlis mere, igive azrze var. erT obieqtur
aucileblobamde mivediT _
orive damnaSave varT qarTvelic da afxazic. gTxovT, xazgasmiT aRniSneT, rogorc qarTveli Tavze nacris dayras ar
vapireb, magram aucileblad
unda vTqva: dalocvilo qarTvelebo, 3 milionma qarTvelma,
80 aTas afxazs, aqedan 40
aTas sisxlismier naTesavs
rom ver movuareT, gulSi Caxutebis nacvlad xeli rom
vkariT da CrdiloeTisken gavaxedeT, visi bralia es? sxvaTa Soris, TbilisSi, saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi, bevri Camosaxlebuli gvyavs, romelTac
qarTuli dRemde ar ician.
afxazTa am nawilma SeiZleba
deda qarTuli ar icoda, magram megrulad, TiTqmis, yvela
laparakobda.
_ is 300 aTasi ltolvili, vinc Cven gvyavs, afxazia
Tu qarTveli?
_ Zalian didi madloba, Cemo kargo, am SekiTxvisTvis.
arsebobs realuri statisti-
Cemi azriT, konstituciaSi pirdapir unda
Caiweros _ Tanamedrove saqarTvelos
damfuZneblebi qarTveli da afxazi erebi arian
ka, razec ar vsaubrobT _ 80
aTasi afxazidan naxevars, 40
aTass saomar moqmedebebSi monawileoba ar miuRia, isini
CemsaviT devnilebi arian. davfiqrdeT, raSia saqme. im
kuTxeSi afxazi rom ibrZoda,
gasagebia, magram bagramianis
batalions raRa undoda, amaze
gvifiqria? modiT, Sors rom
ar wavideT, erTi ram Riad
vTqvaT _ dedamiwis zurgze
qarTvels iseve rogorc afxazs, sxva sisxlismieri naTesavi ar hyavs, Cven Zmebi varT da
uerTmaneTod momavali arcerTs ar gvaqvs. maqsimum, sami Taobaa sakmarisi imisTvis,
rom afxazi asimilirdes da
gaqres. mere is afxiarcac
aRar eqneba da balalaikaze
daukravs. qarTvelobas ki aranairi ekonomikuri aRmavloba
ar da ver eqneba. esec Riad
unda vTqva: seriozuli investori, sanam omis safrTxea, saqarTveloSi aq kapitals ar
Cadebs.
ai esaa WeSmariteba. ra
gviSlis xels, 1995 wlis
konstituciaSi, damoukidebel
saqarTveloSi, xom Riadaa datovebuli
teritoriuli
mowyobis sakiTxi? axla sakonstitucio komisiac gvaqvs
Seqmnili. modiT, siyvaruliT
savse TvalebiT erTmaneTs CavxedoT da vuTxraT _ me da
Sen Zmebi varT, es saxelmwifo
Cvenia _ Seni da Cemi, daviTi
Seni mefec iyo da Cemic, Tamari Seni dedofalic iyo da Cemic. SevqmnaT erTiani saxelmwifo _ federacia, gaerTianeba Tu rac iqneba. movufiqroT
saxeli, magaliTad, `iberia~,
`iveria~ an raime sxva, romelic orives gagvaerTianebs.
Cven xom SeTanxmebuli varT,
risTvisac gvinda es saxelmwifo? _ imisTvis, rom Cveni
identoba SenarCunebuli, gadarCenili iyos da keTildReobaSi vicxovroT. modiT, am
iniciativiT gamovideT da ara
imiT, rom 2014 wels afxazs
vuTxraT avtonomias mogcemo.
ar minda amis Sefaseba, vinmesTvis gulistkena an niSnismogeba, magram es matarebeli didi xania Cavlilia.
_ umoqmedobiT imdens mivaRwieT, rom ruseTma afxazeTis damoukidebloba aRiara,
axla ukve xelSekrulebac gaformda. anu maT Tavad vubiZgeT ruseTisken?
_ mesmis rasac mekiTxebiT.
ruseTis moazrovne nawili
kargad acnobierebs, rom es
TamaSi misTvis Zalian wamgebiania. aseve wamgebiania isic, rasac dRes ukrainaSi akeTebs,
magram es mocemuloba, realobaa. iqneb,
ruseTs Cven mivceT
Sansi, misi gadawyvetileba uxeSad ki
ar wavaRebinoT ukan,
aramed sxva faqtis
winaSe davayenoT _
qarTvelebi da afxazebi SevrigdiT! Cveni gadarCena erTianobaSia.
davsvaT
kiTxva: ratom ver
xerxdeba,
bolo
wlebis
manZilze,
qarTvelTa
da
afxazTa erTi Sexvedra mainc. Jenevis
formats Tavi davaneboT, igi didi xania erT-erT biurokratiul samsaxurad
iqca. sxva aqtiurobebi sad aris? gavixsenoT, TbilisSi,
`Sardenze~ rogor
seirnobda arZimba,
Rirseul qarTvelebTan erTad
mSvidobis sadRegrZeloc dalia. dRes ra xdeba? SeTanxmeba unda Sedges, sxva gza arc
gvaqvs, qveynis SigniT, Cvens
mowyobaze, mere vifiqroT.
vTqvaT, ra Caideba ekonomikur
politikaSi iseTi, rac afxazeTis ekonomikis ganviTarebas,
integraciis pirobebSi, Seuwyobs xels. magaliTad, aWaris turistuli infrastruqturaa prioriteti Tu afxazeTis, anakliis porti Tu anaklia fiCor-gagidasTan erTad,
engur-hesis gayofa Tu gaerTianeba, soxum-Tbilisis rkinigza Tu usoxumod evraziaSi
gasvla a.S. da a.S. Tu qarTul-afxazuri erToba Sedga,
ukve prezidentis, premieris
eTnikuri warmomavlobis mixedviT arCeva warmoudgeneli
iqneba. iqneb, SevqmnaT iseTi
saxelmwifo, sadac gadamwyveti profesionalizmi, erTguleba, patiosneba, qveynis samsaxuri da ara vinmes dnm-is
analizis Sedegi iqneba. modiT,
momavals am WrilSi SevxedoT.
es xom droTa ganmavlobaSi
gadalaxavs im bariers, rasac
eTnikuri warmomavloba hqvia?
umTavress nu vuRalatebT _
am ori xalxis istoriuli
erTianoba Seqmnilia, aqvT er-
Tiani saxelmwifos, erTad
yofnis, erTi wes-adaTis, Tanacxovrebis gamocdileba da,
rac mTavaria, erTi geo-politikuri mdgomareoba. qarTuli
geo-politikuri plusi afxazeTis gareSe plusad ver CaiTvleba, ufro minusicaa!
_ Tqven brZaneT, erTi saxelmwifo unda gvqondeso,
amaze arcerTma xelisuflebam
ar ifiqra. xom ar narCundeba
konfliqti xelovnurad?
_ amaze Zalian xistad gipasuxebT. 20 welze metia
msoflioSi axali gadanawileba mimdinareobs. es absoluturad axali realobaa. moTamaSe
didi Zalebi patarebs TavianTi
interesebisTvis iyeneben. naciis warmatebuli pasuxi, aseT
gadanawilebaze, mxolod da
mxolod erTia: uxeSad gamomiva, magram iseT qarTvelebsac
vicnob, romlebic yanwiT xel-
Si saqarTvelos sadRegrZelos svamen, magram Sinaganad
mzad arian, rusis rom ar eridebodeT, gadauaron afxazs,
oss. aseTi adamianebi saxelmwifos Semqmnelebi ver iqnebian. ratom gvikvirs, rom aseTive adamiani SeiZleba afxazic
iyos?!
_ midgomebi unda daixvewos Tu ra aris Sesacvleli?
_ ara. Cven, didi qarTvelebis magaliTs unda mivyveT. mavans dResac ar esmis, rom didi konstantine gamsaxurdias
literaturuli gmirebi, ZiriTadad, afxazebi iyvnen. davfiqrdeT, ratom akeTebda amas
konstantine.
_ afxazi gmirebi qarTvelTa SemoqmedebaSi uxvadaa, Tundac, akakis `gamzrdelSi~.
_ madloba am kiTxvisTvis.
akakim erTi ram gamaxsena:
Tqveni gazeTis redaqtoria is
kaci, romelmac 90-ian wlebSi
akakis gamonaTqvami aRmoaCina,
romelic
akrZaluli
iyo, sadac igi werda:
`megruli dRes salaroa namdvili qarTuli
sityvebisa. aRmosavleTsaqarTvelos dahkargvia
namdvili
qarTuli
sityvebi, maT nacvlad
TaTrul-somxur-sparsuli SemouRia, romelic qarTvelis yurs
cudad
eCxireba
da
gulsac swyens. megrul
enaSi ki Semonaxulan
obol margalitebad is
Zveli sityvebi~. bednieri kaci var, rom Cemma
didma megobarma vaxtang
xarCilavam es gamando
da davbeWdeT. maSindeli saxelmwifo moxeleebis absolutur umravlesobas akakis es
sityvebi,
gazeTidan
amonaWeri, kabinetebSi
ekidaT. aqedan daskvna:
erovnuli xalxi im xelisuflebaSic iyo, es SevardnaZis dros moxda.
_ axla Tu gvyavs xelisuflebaSi erovnuli xalxi?
_ RmerTma nu qnas, rom ar
gvyavdes. ra Tqma unda, gvyavs,
magram ramdenad yofniT maT
kvalifikacia da vaJkacoba, es
sxva Temaa. rom vTqva, am
kuTxiT, miRweuli SedegebiT
kmayofili da bednieri varmeTqi, mogatyuebT. dRes, Cvens
daulagebel qveyanaSi xelisuflebas TavganwirvisTvis
mzaoba unda hqondes. Tu vinmes pretenzia aqvs eris istoriaSi darCes, is TavganwirvisTvis mzad unda iyos. darwmunebuli var, afxazTa da qarTvelTa Soris aseTi adamianebi
arseboben. sxvanairad, erTsac
da meoresac dagvimTavrebia
cxovreba da esaa.
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saqarTvelo da qarTuli eklesia
apokalifsis karibWesTan
informaciuli omi saqarTvelos istoriuli samefo taxtis xelSi
Casagdebad anu qarTvel bagrationTa samefo titulis „daviTianis“
gagebisaTvis dRevandeli msoflios axali wesrigis WrilSi
aqvs, saqarTvelos sapatriarqos marTva yvela mimarTulebiT, dawyebuli Teologiuri problemebidan da damTavrebuli sasadilos sakiTxebiT da Cven Cayenebuli
varT erTob egzotikur
mdgomareobaSi, ginda Tu ar
ginda , qarTuli eklesiis
Wir-varamze da Cvendami damokidebulbaze, visaubroT
am erTob cnobili qalbatonis konteqstSi. Cveni dRe-
Tis - mama RmerTis nacvlad. ikonografiulad: ieso qristes warmosaxva
marjveniT mamisa da suliwmidis warmosaxva maT erTianobaSi mtredis saxiT. saqarTvelos eklesiam es yvelaze mkveTri da yvelaze arsebiTi Teologiuri Rirebuleba wminda samebisa
ukanasknel wlebSi daamkvidra Zveli
aRTqmisuli sami Wabuki angelozis
siujetiT, riTac iudevelTa gaRizianeba moxsna. swored amitom SevaCere am
niuansebze mkiTxvelis yuradReba,
rom meTqva: saqarTvelos eklesiur
mospobis saSiSroebasTan. Cvens mier
ZiriTad StrixebSi gadmocemuli
msoflio istoriis is suraTi, babilonis taZris dangrevisa da solomonis taZris aSenebisa, es ori civilizaciis Sejaxebis suraTi, naTlad
gviCvenebs, rom kacobriobam gaiara babilonis taZris garSemo Semokrebis
gamocdilebac da ebraelTa mier qaldevelTa naZarcvi sibrZniT aSenebuli
civilizaciis pretenziac msoflios
marTvisa. es ukanaskneli sawyisSive
iyo moklebuli samarTlianobasa da
deniza sumbaZe (filosofiis mecnierebaTa doqtori, profesori):
eklesiis pirispir martod darCenilma, saWirod
CavTvale, mSvelelad vuxmo qarTvel xalxs
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi
ix. `saerTo gazeTi~ #42-0
01
eklesiuri
`xeliskvra~ da
erovnul-m
mecnieruli
Tvalsazrisebis
gaZeveba
(gagrZeleba)
dogmaturi gangaSi qarTul eklesiaSi atexili saqarTvelos patriarqis TanaSemwe qalbatonis mier,
dedauflis qristianul-T
Teologiuri cnebis Cemeuli Semotanis gamo, anu
suliwmidis, rogorc deduri sawyisis Cemeul gagebasTan dakavSirebiT,
Cemi dRevandeli gadasaxedidan, es iyo
ebraul- Teologiuri gangaSi im adamianebisa, romlebic formalurad
qristianebi iyvnen, xolo - Sinaganad
iudevelni. dRevandeli gadasaxedidan ukve saWirod mimaCnia xazi gavusva im garemoebas, rom sapatriarqoSi
mowyobili mTeli miTqma-mmoTqma suliwmindis Cemeuli gagebis mimarT,
anu Cems mier deda-u
uflis cnebis Semotanis mimarT, xdeba im dros, roca
CvenTvis yvelasTvis SeumCnevlad, saqarTvelos saxelmwifos garkveuli
samsaxurebi, saqarTvelos istoriul
droSebSi: „gorgaslian-d
daviTian-T
TamarianSi“ eZeben ebraelTa bibliuri
mefis, daviT winaswarmetyvelis droSas, xolo qarTul eklesias, mimdinare politikuri procesebis konteqstSi, amzadeben iudaizmTan da Tanamedrove „tamplierebTan“ kohabitaciuri
TanamSromlobisaTvis. Cven Sorsa
varT im poziciisagan, rom pretenzias
vuyenebdeT xsenebul qalbatons,
trinitaruli, anu wminda samebis Teologiur sakiTxebSi garkvevisas; aseTi maRalfardovani Rirebulebebis
konteqstSi misi moxsenieba sakmaod
did pativad migvaCnia misTvis, magram
sami aTeuli welia, mas Cabarebuli
vandelobis gadasaxedidan, sruli safuZveli gvaqvs isic vifiqroT, rom
Cemeuli „dedauflis“ miseuli amoCemeba iseve ar iyo misi piradi iniciativa, rogorc qarTvel marTlmadidebel tamplierTa „Sesaxlebaa“ warmoudgeneli saqarTvelos sapatriarqos
WerqveS da samebis sakaTedro taZris
gumbaTqveS, misi piradi gadawyvetilebiTa da surviliT. dRemde, magaliTad, auxsnelia CemTvis, vis hqonda
ufleba saqarTvelos sapatriarqos
mier gamocemuli, axalqarTulze
Targmnili bibliis wminda samebisadmi
miZRvnaSi, romelic axali qarTuli
bibliis pirvelive furcelzea ganTavsebuli, wminda samebis sayovelTaod cnobili da tradiciuli gansazRvreba „erTarsobisa“ Seecvala „TanaarsiT“ da Seeqmna suraTi, rom saqarTvelos eklesiaSi Teologiis anbanSi
ver erkvevian: “sadidebelad wmidisa,
Tanaarsisa, cxovelsmyofelisa da ganuyofelisa samebisa, mamisa da Zisa da
sulisa wmidisa, amin!“ qristianul eklesiuri TeologiiT wminda sameba ,
anu ganuyofeli sampirovnuloba samebisa, misi mTlianoba da yovlismomcveloba, ar SeiZleba iyos kidev raimes
Tanaarsi. igi mxolod erTarsia. qarTuli bibliis winare, pirvelbeWduri gamocemebis miZRvnaSi es cneba daculia. vis hqonda ufleba amis Secvlis?! Cven zemoT ukve aRvniSneT, rom
saqarTvelos eklesiaSi Cvens Tvalwin mimdinareobs tradiciuli wminda
samebis ikonografiuli kompoziciis
Secvla Zveli aRTqmiseuli sami Wabukis siuJetiT. mimdinareobs mizanmimarTulad. rogorc cnobilia, yvelaze gamaRizianebeli iudevelTaTvis
aris qristesmieri aRiareba wminda samebisa samyaros Semoqmedi erTi Rmer-
wakiTxul iqna moxsenebad bizantinologTa saerTaSoriso konferenciaze, baTumSi, rusTavelis saxelobis saxelmwifo universitetSi, 2013 wlis 26
seqtembers, sakonferencio moxsenebisTvis gankuTvnili Sesabamisi, mokle versiiT.
cnobierebaSi wminda sameba aSkarad
mtkivneuli problemaa da wminda samebis tradiciuli xatis - mamisa, Zisa
da suliwmidis - SecvliT, aSkarad
igrZnoba qarTuli eklesiis tendencia ebraul-iudeurTan dapirispirebis moxsnisa. aSkarad igrZnoba, rom
qarTuli eklesiisTvis ufro momgebiani aRmoCnda iudaizacia qarTuli
eklesiuri azrovnebisa, vinem eklesiis mamaTa monapovris, suliwmidis pirovnuli RvTaebrivobis ayvana dedauflis xarisxSi.
Cven vcxovrobT suliwmidis epoqaSi, anu suliwmidis WeSmarit uflebamosilebaTa garduvali kanonizaciis epoqaSi. dedauflis zeciuri
taxtis kanonizaciis epoqalur misias, romelic qarTveli eris istoriuli kuTvnilebaa, siamovnebiT wagvarTmevs germanuli Teologiac da rusulic. mesame aTaswleulis msoflio
saeklesio krebebs usaTuod mouwevT
suliwmidis axali Teologiuri gansazRvrebebis dakanoneba. msjeloba
saerTod am msoflio saeklesio krebaTa ganaxlebis saWiroebaze saqarTvelos eklesiam daiwyo kategoriuli
uaryofiT, rac imas niSnavs, rom saqarTvelos eklesias Tavis sakuTar
mizandasaxulebaTa ganxorcielebis
perspeqtivaSi msoflio saeklesio
krebebis saWiroeba moazrebuli ara
aqvs. suliwmidis dedurobis sakiTxi,
umniSvnelovanesi sakiTxia Tanamedrove msoflios Teologiur azrovnebaSi. epoqa, ebrauli cnobierebiT marTuli civilizaciisa, dasrulebulia. samyaros Semoqmedis bibliur saxeSi, deduri sawyisis CamoWra, evas
uflebamosilebis aRkveTa samyaros
SeqmnaSi monawileobisa, rac saocari
gabedulebiT daugmia Tavis droze
akaki wereTels, Cveni civilizaciis
dinamikaSi, sabolood iRebs arasrulyofili, harmoniulobas moklebuli, calmxrivi, anu mxolod patriarqalur-mamakacuri cnobierebiT
marTvis saxes, romelsac civilizacia mihyavs kacobriobis sicocxlis
zneobriobas da moraluri smenis is
sawyisiseuli done aisaxa kidec ebraelTa wminda wignis azrovnebaSi, aisaxa Warbad, Tundac erT frazaSi, romelsac ebraelTa RmerTi aRuTqvams
Tavis rCeul xalxs: „ me dagasakuTrebinebT Tqveni mdgmurobis qveyanas“.
qristes movlineba iudeaSi elia winaswarmetyvelis movlinebasac mihgavda naboTes venaxSi, da qaldeuri
moraluri energiis gabrwyinebasac,
romliTac dasrulda mama RmerTis
WeSmaritebaca da ebraeli eris zneobrivi rCeulobac. suliwmidis pirovnuli RvTaebrivobis gacocxlebiT,
cxadia, qristem ebrauli monoTeizmi
Caabara istorias, magram qristianuli eklesiuri institucionalizmis
Seqmnis gzaze, mainc SesZles ebraelebma Tavisi, iudaisturi kvali daemCniaT eklesiur kanonebze. suliwmidis epoqaSi unda moxdes dawmenda
qristianuli eklesiisa araqristianuli minarevebisagan da wminda qristeseuli zneobrivi principebis damkvidreba. aq erTiandeba qristianobis
msoflio istoriis mesame aTaswleulisa da qarTveli eris sulieri misia. da Tu yvelaferi es suliwmidis
dedurobis gacxadebaze gadis, mkiTxvelma Tavad gansajos mniSvneloba dedauflis Cveneuli Tvalsazrisis gandevnisa saqarTvelos eklesiuri sivrcidan da „ganmzadeba gzaTa“ ebraelTa mefis, „ solomonis taZrelTa“
SemosvlisaTvis wminda sambis sakaTedro taZris sakurTxevelSi. qarTul sazogadoebas TiTqmis warmodgenac ki ara aqvs imisa, Tu raoden kvalificiuria Cveni mowinaaRmdege ...
am azrs kidev ufro mimtkicebs is
garemoeba, rom 1991 wels, Cems mier,
ivane javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis areopagituli samecniero centris Teoriul bazaze dafuZnebuli petre iberis saxelobis religiur-humanitaruli instituti, romlis ZiriTadi
profilebic am etapze religiaTmcodneoba da bibleistika gaxldaT,
instituti, romlis wiaRSic umniSvnelovanesma adamianebma da qarTuli
mecnierebis saukeTeso warmomadgenlebma moiyares Tavi(neli maxaraZe,
Teo CxeiZe, oTar gamyreliZe, irakli
surgulaZe, jemal ajiaSvili, daviT
grZeliZe, daviT musxeliSvili, TinaTin cqitiSvili, meri WeliZe, rezo
korinTeli, mixeil kekelia, gogi sanikiZe da a.S. albaT, unda aRiniSnos
isic, rom instituti, realurad,
ufaso swavlebis principiT funqcionirebda da TiTqmis yvela saleqcio
kursi anazRaurebis gareSe ikiTxeboda!), dafuZnebisTanave iqna mizanSi
amoRebuli nairnairi Tavdasxmebisa
da provokaciebisaTvis, rogorc eklesiis warmomadgenelTa, aseve saxelmwifos warmomadgenelTa mxridan. ( me gaxldiT institutis damfuZnebeli da samecniero xelmZRvaneli, reqtori - q-ni neli maxaraZe). mama arCil mindiaSvilma, romelic im
droisaTvis saqarTvelos parlamentSi eklesiis warmomadgeneli iyo, da
albaT es garkveuli „saparlamento“
davalebac iyo, satelevizio gamosvliT mouwoda sazogadoebas, da institutis msmenelebs, daegmoT petre
iberis instituti. xolo saqarTvelos televiziam me da q-n neli maxaraZes komentaris gakeTebis uflebac
ki ar mogvca...
petre iberis instituti, es gaxldaT axali tipis umaRlesi skola,
romelic miznad isaxavda msoflio
mecnierebis doneze Seeqmna is erovnuli, mecnierul- SemecnebiTi aparati,
romelic saWiro iyo qarTuli fenomenis WeSmariti codnisa da SefasebisaTvis. Cven migvaCnda, rom sabWoTa saxelmwifos ideologiuri reJimis pirobebSi moqmedi saganmanaTleblo
sistema ver qmnida da ar qmnida im
kvleviT-mecnierul aparats, romelic saWiro iyo qarTveli eris istoriuli fenomenis SemecnebisaTvis,
globaluri erovnuli TviTgamorkvevisaTvis. petre iberis instituti es iyo umaRlesi skola, sadac saqarTvelos istoriaSi pirvelad xdeboda
akademiur, sauniversiteto doneze,
bibliis Teologiur-filosofiuri
wakiTxva da Seswavla wminda qarTuli
cnobierebis gadasaxedidan. Cven, maSin, 1991 wels, imedi gvqonda, rom
axal, sabWoTa reJimisagan gamoTavisuflebul saqarTveloSi, saSualeba
mogvecemoda, Segveqmna swored is saganmanaTleblo sistema, rogoric Cveni erovnuli TviTSemecnebisaTvis iyo
saWiro da gadaudebeli amocana. CvenTvis, maSin, msoflio realobis armcodne da msoflios samarTlianobaze
mindobili ganwyobis xalxisaTvis,
fsiqologiurad TiTqmis SeuZlebeli
iyo gacnobiereba imisa, rom msoflios axali, CvenTvis ucnobi da gamiznuli wesrigis saxiT, Cven, qarTveli
xalxi, zar-zeimiT vuRebdiT kars samarTlianobis tyavSi gaxveul gveleSaps, romelic Cveni erovnuli meobis
dasacavad ki ar moemarTeboda, aramed
12 gv.
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#2, 28 ianvari, 2014 w.
11 gv.
Cvenive cTunebiT xelSewyobili , nebierad da pativiT mosrialebda, Cveni
erovnuli meobisa da TviTmyofadobis
gadasaylapad.
cxadia, petre iberis instituti
Tavisi mizandasaxulebiT amgvar gveleSapTan kohabitaciuri ver iqneboda. da xelisuflebas, romelic saxelmwifos yoveli qarTvelis piradobis dokumentidan qarTvelobis
amoSlisaTvis amzadebda, aseTi instituti araferSi ar esaWiroeboda.
Cven maSin ver vacnobierebdiT, rom
rac ufro metad da damajereblad vasabuTebdiT Cveni institutis erovnul saWiroebas, miT ufro metad vusabuTebdiT xelisuflebas Cveni institutis gauqmebis saxelmwifoebriv
poziciasac, romelic am droisaTvis
CvenTvis gaucnobierebeli iyo da gaurkveveli rCeboda, vin gvebrZoda, am
erovnul, gulanTebul uangaro saqmeSi: pirovneba Tu saxelmwifo?! Tu saxelmwifos ideologias amofarebuli
sakuTriv pirovneba da amrigad orive
erTad. yovlad saocari CemTvis is
iyo, rom jer kidev SevardnaZis mosvlamde (Cveni instituti gaixsna 1991
wels), erT mSvenier dRes, institutis ofisSi, erekle meoris moednis
#10-Si mdebare saxlis meore sarTulze, sruliad moulodnelad, magidasTan muSaobis procesSi, pirdapir Tavze damadga qalaqis meri, b-ni
irakli andriaZe. wamodgomac ver movaswari. skami TviTove moswia Cemsken
da saidumlos gamxelis Sesabamisi,
moCurCule da SeSfoTebuli toniT
miTxra: „q-no deniza~ Tqven iciT, rogori pativiscema maqvs me Tqvendami...
miSveleT rame. an unda daxuroT Tqveni instituti, an me unda gamaTavisuflon Tanamdebobidan...droebiT mainc
daxureT!..“ miTxra da pasuxs ar daeloda. saswrafod gavida oTaxidan,
gegoneboda, rom eSinoda, vinmes ar daenaxa CemTan Semosuli. ra unda meqna?!
gulis siRrmeSi vigrZeni, rac xdeboda. saubedurod da sabednierod, es is
dReebi iyo, roca saSineli miwisZvrebi iyo saCxereSi da xmebi dadioda,
rom biZgebi TbilisSic moaRwevda.
saCxeris episkoposi, meufe qristefore, romlis samive Svili am droisaTvis Cveni institutis msmeneli
iyo, SeSinebuli movarda saCxeridan
TbilisSi: Cveni institutis Senoba
mZime avariul mdgomareobaSi iyo da
movarda imisaTvis, rom Tavisi TvaliT venaxeT gadarCenilebi. avdeqi da
miwisZvris saSiSroebis mizeziT, mTeli instituti erTi TviT daviTxove
da, ase vTqvaT, „erTi TviT davxure“.
amasobaSi, rogorc Cans, samTavrobo
miwisZvrebmac sxva cxel wertilebSi
gadainacvles da b-ni irakli aRar gamoCenila. gadavrCiT. amjerad, mgoni,
swored miwisZvram gadagvarCina b-ni
iraklica da petre iberis institutic, magram arc maincadamaic didi
xniT.
petre iberis institutma Tavisi
pirveli nakadis oTxmocamde msmenelidan 55 diplomantis gamoSveba SesZlo mxolod, romelTagan umravlesni, saqarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxeSi,
avtoritetuli maswavleblebi arian.
is eklesiur- saxelmwifoebrivi Tavdasxmebi ki, uSualod saqarTvelos
prezidentis, eduard SevardnaZis
meTvalyureobis qveS, daagvirgvina
saqarTvelos kulturis maSindelma
ministrma, Tbilisis universitetis
profesorma, b-nma valeri asaTianma,
romlis piradi sasamarTlo sarCeliTac, 1996 wels, saqarTvelos saxelmwifos samarTaldamcavebma sasamarTlos ganCinebis wesiT aiZules petre
iberis instituti, daetovebina Tbilisis, erekles moednis #10-Si mdebare dabzaruli saxlis sardafuli
saqarTvelo da qarTuli eklesia
apokalifsis karibWesTan
sarTuli, romelic wlebis ganmavlobaSi daobebul - daxavsebuli, sakuTari xelebiT gawmindes iberTa
RvTismSoblis xatis saxelze Seqmnili saqvelmoqmedo sazogadoebis wevrebma, gogi sarajiSvilma da daTo
grZeliZem, da auditoriad aqcies
petre iberis institutis msmenelTaTvis. Tumca petre iberis institutis darbeva arc am ganCinebiT damTavrebula. ramodenime wlis Semdeg, SevardnaZis politikuri memkvidreni,
e.w. vardebis revoluciiT mosulni
xelisuflebaSi, pirdapir Tbilisis
universitets miadgnen dasangrevad
da daangries kidec reformis saxeliT. areopagituli centri, sayrdeni
petre iberis institutisa, quCaSi aRmoCnda... da petre iberis institutis
Setanis sakiTxi Tbilisis universitetis struqturaSi, dRis wesrigidan moixsna. saqarTvelos xelisuflebam Tbilisis universitets dafinanseba Seuwyvita. rogorc gvauwyes
ramdenime wlis Semdeg, dafinanseba
daeniSna sapatriarqosTan arsebul
universitetebsa da saswavleblebs...
CemTvis dauviwyaria is dRe, roca
darbeul da damarcxebul universitetSi, saqarTvelos kulturis ministri, kaxa lomaia, romelic wmindanTa „cxovrebebs“ „mkvdar teqstebs“ uwodebda da ganaTlebis programidan moiTxovda maT amoyras, gamarjvebuli SemobrZanda ivane javaxiSvilis darbazSi, misi uwmindesobis, saqarTvelos patriarqis ilia meoris
TanxlebiT...
swored petre iberis institutis zemoTxsenebul im erTaderT
auditoriaSi Sesdga, 1994 wels,
qarTvel bagrationTa Cemsmieri pirveli mowveva. minda aRvniSno, rom am
mowvevas win yovelTa qarTvelTa
msoflio kongresis prezidentis, b-n
rezo CxeiZis TaosnobiT gamarTuli
yovelTa qarTvelTa msoflio forumi uZRoda win. aseT mniSvnelovan istoriul Tavyrilobaze sazRvargareTeli bagrationebi aRmoCndnen mopatiJebulni, saqarTvelos taxtis
uSualo memkvidreTagan ki aravin Canda. b-n petre gruzinskis ojaxs bavSvobidan vicnobdi Cemi ganuyreli megobrisa da sulieri dis, eliza(elisabed) dokvaZis mxridan, romelic
petre gruzinskis pirvel SvilTan, qn dali gruzinskisTan bavSvobidan
TanSezrdili, sicocxlis bolomde
ganuyreli da misi uerTgulesi megobari iyo, da saerTod rogorc etaloni megobrobisa, igi usayvarlesi adamiani iyo gruzinskebis mTeli ojaxis. Cemi Sexvedra agvistos omis Semdgom garTulebul saqveyno viTarebaSi, saqarTvelos samefo taxtis
problemebze sasaubrod b-n nugzar
bagration-gruzinskisTan, 2008 wlis
seqtembrSi, eliza dokvaZis saxlSi
da elizas TandaswrebiT Sesdga...
2013 wlis 3 martis Rames, eliza
dokvaZe sruliad gaurkveveli sikvdiliT gardaicvala Tbilisis ingoroyvas saxelobis sauniversiteto
klinikis saswrafo sareanimacio ganyofilebaSi. eliza gulmxurvaled
uWerda mxars saqarTvelos samefo
taxtis aRdgenis ideas. .. da misi gardacvaleba, garda imisa rom CemTvis
aunazRaurebeli tragedia iyo, im Sinauruli xidis Catexvasac niSnavda,
romelic axloblurad makavSirebda
bagrationebis ojaxTan...
rogorc maxsovs, 1994 welSi,
qarTvel bagrationTa pirveli mowvevis dRes, Tekla batoniSvilis sasax-
lis sardaful sarTulze, petre iberis institutis auditoriaSi, 2530 kaci Semoikriba qarTvel bagrationTagan. maT Soris q-ni nino bagrationi dab-ni nugzar bagrationi cnobili bagrationebi iyvnen. pativi mqonda Cveni sazogadoebis - iberiis
RvTismSoblis xatis saxelze dafuZnebuli saqvelmoqmdo sazogadoebisa
da petre iberis saxelobis religiur
- humanitaruli institutis saxeliT
meuwyebina maTTvis, rom saWirod migvaCnda bagrationTa dinastiis Semswavleli samecniero centris dafuZneba da yovelive am sakiTxebis saqmis
kursSi misi uwmindesobis, sruliad
saqarTvelos kaTalikos- patriarqis, ilia meoris Seyvana. Cems mier
mowveuli bagrationTa warmomadgenloba vaaxle mis uwmindesobas, romelmac akurTxa isini „bagrationTa
saxlis“ oficialur sazogadoebad
CamoyalibebisaTvis. amis Semdeg CemTvis problema qarTvel bagrationTa
arsebobis perspeqtivisa saqarTveloSi, sapatriarqos labirinTebSi Caiylapa, rogorc xdeboda es Cveulebriv, yvela im problemasTan dakavSirebiT , romelsac, me SevZlebdi da,
sapatriarqoSi ama Tu im formiT mivitandi.: iqneboda es iberiis RvTismSoblis xatis aTonidan saqarTveloSi gadmobrZanebis problema, bagrationTa fenomenis, dalis xeobis mxardaWeris, sagvariSvilo moZraobis, Tu
raime sxvis. es STabeWdileba,rom
problema „cam Caylapa Tu miwam“, rogorc mogvianebiT gairkva, niSnavda
imas, rom problema saqarTvelos patriarqis TanaSemwe qalbatonis, anu saxelmwifos specialuri samsaxurebis
kompetenciaSi gadadioda. bagrationTa problemaze muSaobis eklesiuri
Sedegebi, CemTvis, dRis sinaTleze gamoCnda mxolod 2008 wlis seqtemberSi, rodesac bagrationTa qorwili aRmoCnda daniSnuli saqarTvelos
patriarqis kurTxeviT. rogorc gairkva, saqarTvelos sapatriarqos sakuTari konsultanti hyavda daniSnuli
monarqiis sakiTxebSi, gaioz mamalaZis saxiT, romelsac saqarTvelos samefo taxtis legitimuri pretendentis Sesaxeb sakuTari koncefcia hqonda SemuSavebuli. es koncefcia ki qarTvel bagrationTa ebraul warmomavlobaze iyo daSenebuli. rogorc ukve
aRvniSne, gaioz mamalaZis azriT qarTveli bagrationebi ebraelTa pirveli mamamTavris, abraamis 70 -e Taobad
dabrundnen saqarTveloSi, ebraelTa
dedamTavris, raqelis mosaxele qalisagan qristianebad moqceulni da saqarTveloSi qristianobis winamZRolebad movlenilni. vaxaniaseburi istorikosebi etyoba Cven adrec gvevlinebodnen saqarTveloSi Cveni sakuTari istoriis „SesaTiTxnad“, razedac ilia WavWavaZe esoden wuxda...
bagrationTa ori sxvadasxva qarTuli ganStoebis warmomadgenelTa
daqorwineba, viTom taxtis legitimuri warmomadgenlis xelovnurad
Sesaqmnelad, yovlad gamogonili legitimuri aucilebloba gaxldaT, romelic sruliad ar esaWiroeboda saqarTvelos taxts da miTumetes qarTvel xalxs, im xalxs, romelic dResdReobiT mxolod almacerad da dromoWmulad uyurebs saerTod mefobis
ideas. bagrationTa qorwinebis kurTxeva aSkarad patriarqis SecdomaSi
SeyvaniT iyo miRweuli da aSkarad
politikuri daniSnuleba hqonda: Cafiqrebuli qorwinebis Semdeg, axladSobili ufliswuli, realuri
mmarTveli qveynisa ver iqneboda.
mmarTveloba unda patriarqs mindoboda. amasTan mmarTveloba, rogorc
ara marTva, aramed sufeva. mefobis SeTavazebis am mimzidvel ideaSi SefuTuli iyo eklesiuri kanonizacia saqarTvelos taxtis ufliswulisa,
rogorc ebraelTa mefis - daviTis genetikuri STamomavlis. dRes, rodesac saqarTvelos patriarqis sityva
da pozicia qarTveli xalxis yvelaze
didi avtoritetis sityvasa da pozicias niSnavs, veRaravis daumtkicebs
TviT mTeli qarTveli xalxi, imas,
rom saqarTvelos samefo taxti, saukuneTa ganmavlobaSi marTuli Turme
ebraelTa didi mefis, daviTis STamomaval bagrationTa mier, iseTive kuTvnili ar aris ebraeli
xalxisa, rogorc qarTveli xalxis, im ebraeli xalxisa, romelmac
ager , sul axlaxans, 50 wlis win,
israelis teritoriaze, ori aTaseuli wlis win dakarguli saxelmwifoebrioba aRidgina. aRsaniSnavia, rom es
saxelmwifoebrioba Tavis istoriul
formaSi dabrunebad aris gaazrebuli. es Cveni eklesiuri kanonizacia
„daviTianobisa“, rogorc ebraelTa
mefis, daviTis xorcieli STamomavlobisa saqarTveloSi, sionisturi
ideologiiT marTulma saqarTvelos
xelisuflebam saqarTvelos patriarqsa da qarTul eklesias ukve mTeli
msoflios dasanaxad da gasagonad daadasturebina da gamosZala, rogorc
uZvirfasesi istoriuli dokumenti,
Seqmnili Tavad saqarTvelos patriarqis xeldasxmiT, ebraeli xalxis
sasargeblod, Seqmnili mTeli qarTuli sazogadoebriobis Tvalwin, misive , mTeli qarTuli sazogadoebriobisave sruli mdumarebis fonze. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom saqarTvelos patriarqma ufliwulis naTlobiT, beWedi
dausva ebraelTa pretenzias saqarTvelos samefo taxtze da ebraul istoriul kuTvnilebas saqarTvelos
samefo taxtisas, daviT winaswarmetyvelis STamomavalTa saukunovani
mefobis safuZvelze.
saqarTvelos „nacmoZraobis“ mier SemuSavebuli saqarTvelos axali
konstitucia, romelic prezidentis
uflebebs zRudavs da premierisas
afarTovebs, qmnis STabeWdilebas,
rom igi, es konstitucia, msoflios
axali wesrigis mesveurTagan gaTvlili proeqtiT unda iyos SemuSavebuli, romelSic prezidentis adgili
konstituciuri monarqiis modeliT
unda daikavos legitimurad uflebamosilma mefem, saqarTveloSi mimdinare eklesiuri procesebiT, ebraelTa
mefis, daviTis STamomavalma ufliswulma, romelic , arc ise didi xnis
win, sveticxovlis wminda taZarSi,
ufliswulad monaTla misma uwmindesobam, saqarTvelos patriarqma, ilia
meorem. saqarTveloSi dakanonebuli
,,qarTvel marTlmadidebel tamplierTa ordeni“ da saqarTvelos momavali Taobebi, rogorc STamomavalni ebraelTa mefisa da saqarTvelos mefisa- daviT aRmaSeneblis , saqarTvelos samefo da sapatriarqo taxtebs,
ukve garantirebulad, daicaven erToblivad, msoflios axali wesrigis
mesveurTa mxardaWeriT.
am eklesiur - politikuri kohabitaciuri urTierTobis gamovlinebaa saqarTvelos sapatriarqosTan dafuZnebuli , iudeur - marTlmadidebluri , sruliad saqarTvelos axalgazrduli moZraoba: „daviTianni“,
Seqmnili misi uwmindesobis, sruliad
saqarTvelos kaTolikos -patriar-
qis, ilia meoris locva-kurTxeviT,
rogorc ebraelTa didi mefis, bibliuri daviT winaswarmetyvelis, da
qarTvelTa didi mefis, daviT aRmaSeneblis, anu qarTveli xalxis ori didi winamorbedis STamomavalTa moZraoba.
„vardebis revoluciiT“ mosulma
saqarTvelos xelisuflebam da saqarTvelos eklesiam, erToblivad, saerTaSoriso fondis USAID- is mxardaWeriT, saqarTvelos sapatriarqosTan, 2008 wlis 8 Tebrvals, e.i. daviT
aRmaSeneblis dRes daafuZnes es sruliad saqarTvelos axalgazrduli
moZraoba „daviTianni“, romelic sruliad qarTvel axalgazrdobas - saqarTvelos momavals - acxadebs ebraelTa mefisa da mefsalmunis, daviTisa
da daviT aRmaSeneblis erTian STamomavlobad da mimdevrobad. moZraoba
„daviTiannis“ suliskveTeba ori simboluri niSniT aris gamoxatuli moZraobis RerbSi: ebraelTa mefis, daviTis qnariTa da saqarTvelos sapatriarqo beWdiT. moZraobis wesdeba gasaidumloebulia da misi mopoveba, saqarTvelos sapatriarqos yofilma patrologma, ver SevZeli, miuxedavad
imisa, rom oficialuri TxovniT mivmarTe saqarTvelos patriarqs. didi
albaTobiT werili sakancelario
proceduraSive daibloka. „daibloka-meTqi „ vambob, radgan sapatriarqos samuSao meqanizmi isea awyobili,
veravin gaigebs, romeli gancxadeba mivida patriarqTan da romeli-ara. es
mxolod qalbatonma TanaSemwem icis.
sayovelTaod cnobili informaciiT,
romelsac moZraoba „daviTianis“ faqtiuri xelmZRvaneli, kote svanaZe
gvawvdis, axalgazrduli moZraoba
„daviTianni“ , imitom daarsda saqarTveloSi, ebraelTa mefisa da qarTvelTa mefis erTiani xatic imisTvis
Seiqmna, da daviT ebraelTa mefisa da
daviT aRmaSeneblis erTiani axalgazrduli mimdevrobac moZraobis saxiT
imitom Seiqmna, rom ebrZolos, magaliTad, narkomanias, rac namdvilad
keTilSobiluri saqmea da ratomRac,
TiTqmis sistematiurad, moZraoba
„daviTianni“, romelic narkomanias
ebrZvis, gvilocavs Cven, mTel saqarTvelos da qarTvel xalxs asiaTasi
wmindanis dResaswauls. saqarTvelos
patriarqis mier nakurTxi axali xati, erTad gamosaxuli ori daviTisa,
ebraelTa mefisa da qarTvelTa mefisa, dabrZanebulia wminda samebis sakaTedro taZris samrekloSi. aRniSnuli axalgazrduli moZraoba: „daviTianni“ saxelmwifos mier uzrunvelyofilia prestiJuli ofisiT, rusTavelis gamzirze, mesame sarTulze imave
Senobisa, romlis pirvel sarTulzec
saqarTvelos patriarqis saerTaSoriso saqvelmoqmedo fondia ganTavsebuli. moZraoba „daviTianni“ uzrunvelyofilia Tavisi religiur-politikuri statusiTac: saqarTvelos saxelmwifos mier oficialurad aris
registrirebuli - e.w. „qarTvel
tamplierTa ordeni“, romelic Tavisi oficialuri wesdebiT, Rirseul „daviTianTa“ masonur gaerTianebas warmoadgens. rogorc am gaerTianebis wesdeba gadmogvcems, igi miznad isaxavs saqarTvelos samefo da sapatriarqo taxtebis patronobas.
rogorc raindTa mxedrul saZmos,
qarTvel tamplierTa ordens, mmarTvelobisaTvis, saqarTvelos mTeli
teritoria dayofili aqvs regionebad, romelTac miniWebuli aqvT wmin-
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danTa saxelwodebebi...xolo, rogorc religiuri gaerTianeba, qarTvel „tamplierTa“, anu „metaZreTa“
ordeni, saqarTvelos amJamindeli kanonmdeblobiT gansazRvruli iuridiuli uflebamosilebiT, romelsac
saqarTvelos eklesiis wminda sinodic uWers mxars, saqarTvelos marTlmadidelur eklesias utoldeba. SegaxsenebT, rom sityva „tamplieri“
inglisuri sityvaa da „metaZres“ niSnavs, xolo azrobrivad am terminSi:
„metaZre“ - igulisxmeba ara nebismieri taZari, aramed cnobili istoriuli taZari, agebuli qristeswinared
mefe solomonis dros, ebraelTa
RmerTis saRvTismsaxurod, romelzedac Cven zemoT ukve gvqonda saubari.
„tamplierTa“ msoflio moZraoba
miznad isaxavs israelis didTa mefeTa: mefsalmunisa da winaswarmetyvelis, daviTisa da misi vaJis, solomonis mier israelianTa RmerTis- iahves,
anu iehRovas sadideblad agebuli da
msoflio istoriuli procesebiT ganadgurebuli taZris aRdginebas. aRsaniSnavia, rom qarTvel tamplierTa
mier mowodebuli informaciiT, romelic maTsave veb -gverdzea moTavsaebuli, tamplierTa msoflio moZraobis centraluri ofisi mdebareobs
gaerTianebuli erebis organizaciaSi.
internet saZieblebiT CvenTvis cnobilia is faqtic, rom tamplierTa ordenebi iseTive masiuri masStabebiT
dafuZnebuli organizaciebia post
sabWoTa gavlenis sivrceSi, rogorc
jorj sorosis „Ria samoqalaqo sazogadoebebi“. saxezea: ukraineli
tamplierebi, rumineli tamplierebi,
bulgareli tamplierebi, da a. S.
saqarTvelos patriarqis vizitis Semdgom didi britaneTis gaerTianebul samefoSi da dedofal elisabedTan Sexvdris Semdgom, romelic
aRiarebuli didi figuraa msoflios
masonuri moZraobis, saqarTvelos sapatriarqos dasWirda oficialuri
gancxadebis(23. 02. 2011w.) gakeTeba,
rom saqarTvelos patriarqs ar ukurTxebiao qarTvel tamplierTa ordeni.
magram saqarTvelos sapatriarqos
gancxadeba da saqarTvelos patriarqis gancxadeba erTidaigives ar niSnavs. saqarTvelos patriarqs ar gaukeTebia gancxadeba. saqarTvelos patriarqma es gancxadeba usaTuod piradad unda gaakeTos, Tu mas ar ukurTxebia qarTvel tamplierTa ordeni,
imisaTvis, rom sapatriarqos gancxadebam Rirebuleba SeiZinos. xolo Tu
es Secdoma „ankesis“ teqnologiiT
iqna daSvebuli eklesiis mier, eklesiis mierve unda iqnas aRiarebuli da
kurTxeva yvela kanonikuri wesis
dacviT oficialurad da saxalxod
unda iqnas moxsnili. vicodeT da gvaxsovdes, rom qarTvelma tamplierebma,
oficialurad, internetiT auwyes
mTel msoflios, rom isini ikurTxnen saqarTvlos eklesiis mier. internetSi, qarTul enaze daido e.w.
„qarTvel tamplierTa“ Semdegi gancxadeba:
„2010 wlis dekemberSi gvakurTxes uZvelesi qarTuli samefos
drois wesiT. aseTi kurTxeva ramdenime saukunea ar Catarebula saqarTveloSi. gvakurTxes, rogorc qristes
laSqari, qristes mxedroba, amasTanave bagratovanTa mxedroba. mogveca
udidesi pativi da neba dagvrTes, samebis sakaTedro taZarSi, Sobisa da naTlisRebis wirvebze, sakurTxevelsa
da patriarqis taxtTan dgomisa. (gadmowerilia „qarTvel tamplierTa ordenis“ veb- gverdidan 2011wels).
piradad CemTvis, uSualod qarTvel tamplierTa ordenis warmomadgeneli mTavari pirebis, Teimuraz Tuma-
niSvilisa da dimitri yifianisagan
aris cnobili, rom maTTvis, rogorc
qarTvel tamplierTa ordenis meTaurTaTvis, uSualod saqarTvelos
patriarqTan Sexvedrebisa da urTierTobisaTvis, aranairi problema da
aranairi dabrkoleba ar arsebobs,
rac Zalian martivad da cxadad imas
niSnavs, rom pirovneba, romelic sapatriarqoSi, rogorc institucionalur dawesebulebaSi, saqarTvelos
patriarqTan sazogadoebis warmomadgenelTa Sexvedrebis uflebamosilebasa da am Sexvedrebis procedurul
mowesrigebas praqtikulad ganagebs,
saqarTvelos patriarqis sayovelTaod cnobili TanaSemwe qalbatoni,
uSualod marTavs saqarTvelos patriarqisa da qarTvel tamplierTa ordenis warmomadgenelTa Sexvedrebsac, da rom saqarTvelos patriarqisa da qarTvel tamplierTa kavSiri
xeldasxmulia saqarTvelos saxelmwifo xelisuflebis mier. ufro meti: saqarTvelos patriarqisa da qarTvel tamplierTa urTierToba xelisuflebis mier da xelisuflebis davalebiT imarTeba. vis SeuZlia saqarTvelos patriarqs Tavad misi kurTxevis gareSe, e.i. patriarqs patriarqis gareSe ukurTxos sakurTxevlis sapatio amalad tamplier masonTa warmomadgenlebi? cxadia, aravis.
qarTvel xalxs, saqarTvelos eklesias da saerTod saqarTvelos momavals
aucileblad sWirdeba sakuTriv uwmindesis gancxadeba, rogorc istoriuli dokumenti, rom mas, saqarTvelos patriarqs, mis uwmindesobas,
ilia meores ar ukurTxebia qarTvel
tamplierTa ordeni.
qarTvel tamplierTa ordenis zemoT xmobili ganacxadi, romelSic
naTqvamia, rom isini, anu qarTveli
tamplierebi akurTxes, rogorc qristes mxedroba da bagratovanTa mxedroba, zustad asaxavs qarTvel tamplierTa ordenis Cvens xelT arsebul
oficialur wesdebas, romelSic ordenis mizandasaxulebad gacxadebulia saqarTvelos samefo da saqarTvelos sapatriarqo taxtebis patronoba, rac imas niSnavs, rom israelis bibliur mefeTa, daviTisa da solomonis
mier israelianTa RmerTis - iahves,
igiv iehRovas sadideblad da Tayvanissacemad agebuli saxelganTqmuli
taZris aRdgenisaTvis dafuZnebuli
mravalsaukunovani moZraoba, inglisur enaze „tamplierTa“, xolo qarTul enaze „taZrelTa“ moZraoba, Sevida saqarTvelos wm. samebis sakaTedro taZris sakurTxevelSi da qarTveli eris RmrTisaken aRmaval mlocvare sityvas aedevna...ufro meti: qarTvel tamplierTa e. w.. mxedroba, sargeblobs ra saqarTvelos istoriis
uZveles matianeSi - „qarTlis cxovrebaSi“ daSvebuli informaciuli aRreviT, romelmac cTomilebaSi Caagdo TviT qarTuli eklesia, pretenzias acxadebs saqarTvelos sapatriarqo da samefo taxtebis meurveobisas:
saqarTvelos eklesiis gagebiT saqarTvelos samefo taxti xom dRevandel
bagrationebs, rogorc israelis bibliur mefeTa STamomavlebs: daviT winaswarmetyvelisa da solomon mefis
STamomavlebs ekuTvniT?! amgvari gagebiT, saqarTvelos eklesia faqtobrivad, Cadga Tanamedrove msoflios
axali, sionistur-masonuri moZraobis yvelaze sanukvari miznis, solomonis taZris aRdginebis samsaxurSi
da ara mxolod.... marTalia, didi xania gvesmis, rom „ iyideba saqarTvelo“, magram is forma gayidvisa, romelsac Cveni realoba iRebs, sityvaSi
ver Tavsdeba. rogor fiqrobT? xom ar
xdeba gayidva, qarTveli xalxis TvalebSi nacris SeyriT, qarTveli eris
mTeli istoriisa da xom ar xorcieldeba qarTveli eris erovnuli fenomenis amoSla ara mxolod calkeuli
qarTvelis piradobis damadasturebeli mowmobidan amoSlis gziT, aramed
- mTeli qarTveli eris piradobis istoriis amoSliT sakacobrio realobidan?! xom ar idgams sakuTar taxts
iudaizmi saqarTveloSi saqarTvelos
eklesiis gziT?! ras niSnavs saqarTvelos eklesiur realobaSi masiuri
Secvla wm. samebis xatis axali aRTqmiseuli kanonikur ikonografiuli
siuJetisa, anu: mama RmerTisa, marjueniT mjdomare ieso qristesi da
mtrediT gamosaxuli suliwmidis xatisa, Zveli aRTqmiseuli, abraamTan
dastumrebuli sami Wabukis siuJetiT?! saqarTvelos patriarqis, misi
uwmindesobis, ilia meoris locva kurTxeviT Sesrulebuli, axali,
Zvirfasi TvlebiT moWedili xati:
„saqarTvelos imedi“, romelic erTgvari „metoqia“ me-19 saukuneSi Sesrulebuli „saqarTvelos didebis“
cnobili xatisa, kompoziciurad,
amaRlebul da manaTobel qristes gamosaxulebaSi Caanacvlebs wminda samebis Zveli aRTqmiseul siuJets , angelozebad aRqmuli sami Wabukisas.
„saqarTvelos imedis“ am axal monumentur xatSi saqarTvelos imedis
kompoziciis dagvirgvineba Zveli aRTqmiseuli sami WabukiT, romelTac
dainteresebulma „Teoretikosebma“
xelovnurad moaxvies wminda samebis
gageba, ( iseve, rogorc warRvnisSemdgomi kacobriuli modgmis eponimebad cnobil noes vaJiSvilebs: semis,
qamisa da iafetis sampirovnulobis
SemTxvevaSi moxda), araviTar simbolur Teologias ar eqvemdebareba. rogorc abraamTan dastumrebuli sami
Wabukis sampirovnulobaSi, ise noes
sami vaJis, semis, qamisa da iafetis
sampirovnulobaSi
qristianuli
wminda samebis simbolur gamovlinebaTa amokiTxva aris Sedegi qristian
TeoretikosTa tendenciuri poziciisa, wminda sameba amoikiTxon Zvel aRTqmaSi da am gziT gaaZlieron da daasabuTon WeSmariteba axali aRTqmisa.
samagierod es xelovnurad moZiebuli
simboliuri wminda sameba, saSualebas gvaZlevs, Tavidan aviciloT tradiciuli kanonikuri ikonografiuli
siuJeti wminda samebisa: mamisa, Zisaieso qristesi, da mtrediT gamoxatuli suliwmidisa, rac zustad gamoxatavs dRevandeli qarTuli eklesiis
gadaxras Zveli aRTqmisaken, da qarTuli eklesiis cnobierebaSi iudaisturi tendenciebis momZlavrebas.
faqtobrivad, wm. samebis tradiciuli
xatis SecvliT, Zveli aRTqmiseuli
siuJetiT, qarTulma eklesiam erTi
mxriv Secvala qristes gamosaxuleba
marjueniT mamisa, mtredis saxiT gamosaxuli suliwmidis sxivTa fenaSi,
da aerida qristianuli Teologiis
fundamenturi principis, vizualur
dadasturebas, xolo meore mxriv, am
SecvliT, ikonografiulad qristes
gamosaxulebis gayvana moxda wminda
samebidan. ramdenad gamarTlebulia
mamisa, Zisa da suliwmindis realur
gamosaxulebaTa Secvla Zveli aRTqmiseuli sami Wabukis siuJtiT, abraamis stumrebiT, romelTaganac ori
maTgani , abraamis Semdgom, abraamis
Zmiswulis, lotis stumrebi xdebian?
abraamTan am sami Wabukis gamocxadebis
Sedegia winaswarmetyveleba, rom abraamis cols, uSvilos da ukve asakSi
Sesuls, SeeZineba Svili, da es marTlac ase moxdeba. ebraeli eris, rogorc semituri modgmis genealogia
dalagdeba swored am gamocxadebis
aRsrulebiT: „abraam Sva isaak, isaak
Sva iakob, iakob Sva iuda da Zmani misni...“ da a. S. xolo rac Seexeba lotis
stumrobas da am Wabukebis damsaxurebas lotis winaSe, rogorc viciT
wminda weriliT, anu bibliurive gadmocemiT, sakmaod mZime drama datrialdeba Tavad lotisaTvis. qaldevelTa qveynidan abraamTan erTad wa-
mosuli loti, usaxlkaro da ubinao,
Tavisi coliTa da ori qaliSviliT
dabinavdeba qalaqSi, romelic sodomur codvaSia erTianad Cafluli da
dRes Tu xval uflis gangebiT mZvinvare ganadgureba elis. sodomis ganadgurebis saboloo ganCinebis misaRebad uflisaTvis sodomelebis saqcieli xdeba, romelsac isini lots dastumrebuli Wabukebis mimarT gamoiCenen: lotis saxls Semortymuli mTeli jogi, sodomuri vnebiT Sepyrobili kacebisa, lotisgan iTxoven stumari Wabukebis gadacemas. Tavzardacemuli loti iZulebulia Tavisi qaliSvilebi SesTavazos vneba aSlil
kacebs, oRondac stumrebi ixsnas.
ufali angelozebis gziT auwyebs
lots rom gadaudeblad, ukanmouxedavad unda gavides sodomidan. asec
moiqceva loti.magram imis gamo, rom
misi coli daarRvevs uflis brZanebas
da ukan miixedavs , ukve cecxlis buRSi gaxveuli sodomisaken, marilis
svetad gaaqvavebs mas ufali da amgvarad, loti, sodomidan gaqvevis dros,
cols dakargavs. tragikuli bedis mama da ori qaliSvili ki iseT ukacriels Seafareben Tavs, sadac adamianis
WaWaneba ar aris, da imisaTvis, rom ar
amowydnen, qaliSvilebi miiReben gadawyvetilebas, mamisagan Sobon. ase
SeuerTdeba abraamis modgmas codvili ori Sto lotisa - moabelebisa da
yamonianebisa - romelTac iudeuri wesiT, salocavSi, uflis winaSe dgoma
ekrZalebaT. amrigad, Zveli aRTqmis
mTel istoriaSi , abraamTan dastumrebuli sami Wabuki , gagebuli rogorc RmerTisgan gamogzavnili sami
angelozi, aris Rrmad ebraul- erovnuli datvirTvis, da qristianuli
wminda samebis: mamisa, Zisa da suliwmidis alegoriad gaazreba maTi, sruliad naZaladevi da xelovnuria. „saqarTvelos imedis“ xatis dagvirgvineba ki amgvari alegoriiT, rogori
Zvirfasi TvlebiTac ar unda movWedoT igi, dauSveblia!
eklesia ar aris samecniero
kvleviTi dawesebuleba. pasuxismgebloba am cTomilebaSi kategoriulad
ekuTvnis qarTul mecnierebas da qarTvel mecnierebs. Cven vdgavarT saSiSroebis winaSe imisa, rom msoflioSi
mimdinare politikuri procesebis
konteqstSi momZlavrebuli tendencia erovnuli identobis ugulebelyofisa da uerovnebo msoflioSi gadasvlisa, qarTveli xalxisTvis ar
aRmoCndes damatebiTi safuZveli, mis
mier, qarTveli xalxis mier sakuTari
TviTmyofadobis uaryofisa da mSobliuri miwa-wylis nawil-nawil gasxvisebasTan erTad sakuTari erovnuli
istoriis gasxvisebisac; SeiZleba iTqvas ufro mwvavedac: sakuTari erovnuli istoriisa da erovnuli meobis
gasxvisebis...
qarTul sazogadoebriobas gacnobierebuli ara aqvs, rom saqarTvelos eklesiis kurTxeviT ana bagration -gruzinskisa da espaneTSi gazrdili daviT batoniSvilis xelovnuri
qorwinebiT Sobili Svili, romelic
Tavad bagrationTa saxlis gancxadebiT, araviTari genetikuri kanonierebis TvalsazrisiT ar warmoadgenda
aucileblobas, saqarTvelos patriarqis, misi uwmindesobis, ilia meoris
mier sveticxovlis wminda taZarSi
moinaTla rogorc ebraelTa mefis,
daviTis STamomavali ufliswuli.
qarTvel xalxs gacnobierebuli ara
aqvs, rom saqarTvelos eklesiam, saqarTvelos bagration mefeTa istoriuli titulis „daviTianis“ mcdar
interpretaciaze dayrdnobiT, kerZod, qarTveli bagrationebis gagebiT
da saqveyno aRiarebiT ebraelTa bibliuri mefis, daviT winaswarmetyvelis xorciel STamomavlebad, msoflios sionistur moZraobas da dRevandel israels, romelmac oriaTasw-
lovani xangrZlivobiT dakarguli saxelmwifoebrioba aRidgina da amJamad, Tavganwiruli ibrZvis daviTisa
da solomonis taxtisa da daviTisa da
solomonis taZris aRdgenisaTvis, saqarTvelos samefo taxtze uflebamosileba daumtkica. Tu gaviTvaliswinebT im faqtsac, rom saqarTveloSi
oficialurad aris registrirebuli
„qarTvel tamplierTa ordeni“, romelsac Tavisi oficialuri wesdebiT
saqarTvelos samefos da sapatriarqo
taxtebis patronoba aqvs mizandasaxuli, unda davaskvnaT, rom saqarTveloSi msoflios axali wesrigis dasamyareblad Semoyvanil xelisufalTa meSveobiT msoflios sionisturma
moZraobam, b-n jorj sorosis warmomadgenlobiT, SesZlo, jer konkordatis gziT aeyvana konstituciuri uflebamosilebis doneze saqarTvelos
xelisuflebisa da saqarTvelos eklesiis TanamSromloba erTmaneTTan,
xolo Semdeg , rogorc eklesiuri,
aseve saero sakanonmdeblo wesiT, saqarTvelos samefo taxtis patronoba
Caebarebina qarTvel tamplierTa ordenisaTvis, igiv solomonis taZrelebisaTvis, anu qarTul- ebrauli
sionisturi laSqrisaTvis. da Zalauneburad Cndeba kiTxva: xom ar imyofeba qarTuli eklesia im politikuri
patimris rolSi, romelic mis mierve
gamogonili deteqturi epizodebiT,
CvenTvis gaugebari saWiroebiT gvikiJinebs qaldevelTagan sakuTari upiratesobebis daTmobaze ebraelTaTvis. ratom iwvevs saqarTvelos eklesia STabeWdilebas monarqiis ideis
warmarTvisas xalxisagan faruli da
konspiraciuli meTodiT?! xom ara
gvaqvs saqme saqarTvelos patriarqis
SecdomaSi SeyvaniT saqarTveloSi
oficialurad registrirebul tamplier-masonTa ordenis marTlac kurTxevasTan saqarTvelos patriarqis
mier da saqarTvelos samefo taxtis
daTmobasTan qarTvel tamplierTa sapatronod? xom faqtia, rom qarTvel
tamplierTa ordeni daviT batoniSvilis mfarvelobaSi imyofeba? xom faqtia, rom legitimaciis saxeliT gamogonili bagrationTa qorwineba, sruliad sxva miznisaTvis iyo Cafiqrebuli? xom faqtia, rom qarTveli xalxisTvis ucnobi msoflmxedvelobrivi orientaciis daviT batoniSvili
aRmoCnda e. w. legitimuri ufliswulis gamCeni. saqarTvelos patriarqisadmi qarTveli xalxis ndobis faqtori imxelaa, rom mis yovel nabijs
qarTveli xalxi sifxizle daxSuli
mihyveba. sapatriarqoSi ar arsebobs
aseve istoriul-tradiciuli sakaTalikoso sabWo, Semdgari saero pirTagan, romelic erTgvarad daakavSirebda saqarTvelos sapatriarqo mmarTvelobasa da qarTvel xalxs ... am
funqcias saqarTvelos sapatriarqoSi asrulebs saxelmwifos mier Seqmnili „mardoqai- esTeris“ meqanizmi...
cudi ar iqneba gavixsenoT, rom bibliuri gadmocemiT mardoqai- esTeris meqanizmiT sparseTis udidesi imperia
ebrauli interesebisaTvis amuSavda
da dasrulda sparseTis mefis, dariosis mcdelobiT: babilonelTa mier
dangreuli solomonis taZris aRdgenis... istoriuli wyaroebiT dariosi
esTeris Svili iyo sparseTis mefisagan gaCenili, ise rom sparseTis mefem
arc icoda, rom esTeri ebraeli iyo...
ai, am gamowvevebis konteqstSi
gvixdeba Cven ganmarteba imisa , Tu
ras niSnavs saqarTvelos bagrationTa dinastiis didTa mefeTa titulaturaSi moxsenieba maTi, anu qarTveli
bagrationebisa „daviTianebad“, an
„daviTian-solomonianebad“, anu STamomavlebad didTa ebraelTa mefeTa
modgmisad..... Zalzed yuradsaReb faqtebad migvaCnia misi uwmindesobis, sa-
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qarTvelos patriarqis gancxadebebi
2014 wlis aprilSi, mijriT gakeTebuli, devid lidingtonis - didi
britaneTis ministris evropis sakiTxebSi, israelis Sinagan saqmeTa
ministris, gideon saaris, da maltis respublikis sagareo saqmeTa
ministris - jorj vellas sapatriarqo rezidenciaSi stumrobebis
dros, rom „saqarTvelos Tvis evrokavSirSi gaerTianeba aucilebelia“. rogorc sapatriarqos veb
gverdebiT gvatyobineben, es gaxlavT
gundi, romelic aRWurvilia uflebiT saqarTvelos patriarqTan kars
miRma saubris... rogorc cnobilia, saqarTvelos yofili prezidenti, mixeil saakaSvili maltis masonuri saidumlo ordenis kavaleria. savaraudod es vizitebi saqarTveloSi monarqiis aRdgenis sakiTxebTan unda
iyos dakavSirebuli... SeuZlebelia
ar aRvniSnoT, ra saintereso xedva
aqvs Cvens xalxs: saqarTvelos samefos veb gverdze rigiTi moqalaqis komentari da pasuxi kiTxvaze, emxroba
Tu ar emxroba monarqias, gvauwyebs da
gvafrTxilebs: ...oRond saqarTvelos
mefe ar SeiZlebao iyos maltis masonuri ordenis kavaleri. es rigiTi
qarTvelisaTvis, Torem eklesiis saqmeTa mmarTvelisaTvis, qalbatonisTvis, romlisaTvisac msoflio saeklesio krebaTa uflebamosilebani aRmoCnda miniWebuli, romlisaTvisac
aRmaSfoTebeli aRmoCnda Cemi gagebuli deda ufalica , dante aligierica
da rusTavelis „vefxistyaosanic“,
sruliad dogmatur-kanonikuri aRmoCnda moZraoba daviTiannic, bagrationTa daviTianobis gagebac ebraelTa mefis genetikur STamomavlebad da
, qarTvel marTlmadidbel tamplierTa ordenic, romlis wevrebic saidumlo xeldasxmis ritualSi samjer
afurTxeben qristes xats. eseni gvilocaven Cven , mTel saqarTvelos asi
aTasi wmindanis xsenebis dRes, wmindanebis, romelTac sikvdili arCies
qristes xatze fexis dabijebas. rogorc Cans, saqarTvelos eklesias da
eklesiis saqmeTa mTavarmmarTvel
qalbatons, romelsac Cemeuli gageba
suliwmindis dedurobisa aRmaSfoTebel Seuracxyofad miaCnia saqarTvelos eklesiisaTvis, eg araferi, eklesias, romelsac petre iberi da
„vefxistyaosnis“ avtori SoTa rusTaveli ar miaCnia marTlmadideblebad, marTlmadideblebad miaCnia qarTveli „tamplierebi“, romlebic, msoflioSi aRiarebuli informaciiT, ordenis raindebad saidumlo xeldasxmis dros, samjer afurTxeben qristes
xats.
bagrationTa samefo
titulis - `daviTianis~
gagebisaTvis
raSi mdgomareobs cTomileba saqarTvelos uZvelesi matianis: „qarTlis cxovrebisa“ da ratom iwodebian
saqarTvelos bagrationTa dinastiis
warmomadgeneli mefeni „daviTianebad“, anu ras niSnavs bagrationebis
„daviTianoba“, Tu igi ar niSnavs maT
genetikur STamomavlobas israelianTa didi mefis, mefsalmunisa da winaswarmetyvelis - daviTisagan?!
raSi mdgomareobs codva da
ucodveloba qarTveli mematianeebisa
da aqedan gamomdinare qarTuli eklesiisa, da sad aris saTave am sabediswerod mniSvnelovani cTomilebis?! am
kiTxvebze unda SvecadoT pasuxis gacemas.
saqarTvelos samefo taxtze aRsaydrebul skiptrosnebad bagrationebi ukve qristesSemdgomi me-6-e saukunidan gvevlinebian.
saqarTvelo da qarTuli eklesia
apokalifsis karibWesTan
pirveli bagrationi mefe, es gaxlavT guaram bagrationi, romlis SvilisSvilebad, maT STamomavlebad da
naTesavebad dasturdebian qarTul
istoriografiaSi mTeli dinastiis
warmomadgenelni, dawyebuli me-6-e
saukunidan da damTavrebuli me-19 -e
saukuniT, saqarTvelos samefo taxtis arsebobamde - ukanaskneli mefis,
giorgi me-12-is arsebobamde. bagrationTa dinastia msoflioSi yvelaze
xangrZliv dinastiad aris aRiarebuli.
VI saukunemde, e.i. manam, sanam bagrationebi saqarTvelos samefo taxtze avidodnen, isini, bagrationebi arian saqarTvelos erTerTi didi samTavros - tao klarjeTis mTavrebi da gansxvavebiT saqarTvelos sxva samTavroTa mTavrebisagan, saqarTvelos samefo taxtze aRsaydrebamde, atareben
gansxvavebul tituls. es tituli
aris „ pitiaxSobis“ tituli, rac,
didi qarTveli mecnierisa da bagrationTa mkvlevaris, pavle ingoroyvas
ganmartebiT, imas niSnavs, rom istoriis am monakveTSi mTavrebi ki arian,
magram genetikurad, e. i. TavianTi
warmomavlobiT samefo sagvareulodan modian. erTi sityviT, „pitiaxSebi“ pirvel qristianul saukuneebSi
nataxtari mTavrebi arian. pavle ingoroyva Tavis fundamentur naSromSi:
„giorgi merCule“ sruliad naTlad
gadmogvcems, rom bagrationebi „pitiaxSobas“ farnavazianTa dinastiidan warmomavlobis gamo atareben. xolo rodesac samefo skiptras ipyroben xelT, pirvelaRsaydrebidan oTxi
saukunis Semdgom, rogorc amas qarTveli mkvlevarebic aRiareben, X saukuneSi, isini iZenen manamde ararsebul
sruliad axal tituls TavianTi mefuri warmomavlobisas RvTisagan da
es warmomavloba RvTisagan formulirdeba, rogorc warmomavloba israelianTa mefis, bibliuri daviT winaswarmetyvelisagan. erT cnebaSi
moqceviT ki es tituli xdeba „daviTiani“. Cvens mier gamocemul wignSi:“giorgi mTawmindelis winaswarmetyveleba qarTveli eris Sesaxeb“
Cveni yuradReba mivapyariT swored im
umniSvnelovanes faqts, rom, (vimeoreb!) bagrationebi imave „qarTlis
cxovrebiT“, romliTac isini daviT
winaswametyvelis STamomavlebad,
anu „daviTianebad“ moixseniebian,
sruliad garkveviT, am tituls iZenen pirvelaRsaydrebidan oTxi saukunis Semdgom. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom
bagrationTa samTavrobo tituli
„pitiaxSobisa“ meaTe saukuneSi icvleba samefo tituliT: „daviTianiT“;
daviT aRmaSeneblis Semdeg ki, imisaTvis, rom daviT aRmaSenebelma ar gadafaros bagrationTa „daviTianobaSi“ daviT winaswarmtyvelis mniSvneloba, „daviTianobis“ titulis gamosakveTad daviT winaswarmetyvelTan
kavSirSi, anu „daviTianis“ „ daviTis“ vinaobis dasazusteblad samefo
titulaturaSi, Tu romel daviTzea
aq saubari, da romeli daviTi igulisxmeba titulSi, „daviTians“ emateba
bibliuri daviTis an Svilis an mamis
saxelebi: saxelganTqmuli vaJis, solomon brZenis, an bibliuri daviTis
mamis, ieses saxelebi da bagrationebi
xdebian „daviTian- solomonianebi“,
an „iesian - daviTian - solomonianebi“. amgvarad, qarTveli bagrationebi,
xdebian ra istoriis garkveul etapze
„daviTianebi“, droisa da Jamis mixedviT, interpretacia maTi samefo warmomavlobisa, anu istoriuli realuri warmomavloba farnavaz qarTvel-
Ta mefisagan, icvleba axali interpretaciiT maTi warmomavlobisa ebraelTa didi mefis, bibliuri daviT winaswarmetyvelisagan. xazgasmiT aris
aRsaniSnavi, rom bagrationTa istoriis uZveles qarTul matianiseul
gadmocemaSi iqmneba sruliad paradoqsaluri suraTi: pirveli bagrationi mefe qarTlisa - guaram bagrationi, uSualod romlisaganac momdinareobs genetikurad mTeli modgma qarTveli bagrationebisa da e.i.
X saukunisa da misi Semdgomi bagrationebisac, rac qarTul istoriografiaSi maTematikuri sizustiT aris
dazustebuli, sruliad mkafiod da
gamWvirvaled, „ daviTiani“ ar aris.
erTi sityviT, „ qarTlis cxovrebis“
logikiT, aradaviTiani, anu aradaviTis STamomavali guaram bagrationis
modgma X saukunidan xdeba daviTis
modgmisa, anu „daviTiani“. ismis kiTxva: ratom da rogor, rasTan dakavSirebiT xdeba es gadaviTianeba? da rodis xdeba misi pirveli dafiqsireba
istoriografiulad?!
qarTul istoriografiaSi bagrationebis „daviTianebad“ moxseniebis
pirvel istoriul wyarod miCneulia
giorgi merCules „cxovreba grigol
xanZTelisa“, romelic daiwera 950
wels. giorgi merCule Tavisi zedwodebiT „merCule“, anu „merjule“, e.i.
rjulis mcodne, dRevandeli terminiT „samarTalmcodne“ da „iuristi“,
WeSmaritad aris iseTi kompetenturi
pirovneba, romelsac didi ndoba
ekuTvnis Cvengan faqtebisa da cnebebis
samarTlebriv gadmocemaSi. giorgi
merCule „grigol xanZTelis cxovrebaSi“ aRwers grigol xanZTelisa da
saqarTvelos mefis aSot didis Sexvedras, romlis drosac mefe aSot
kuropalati grigol xanZTels adarebs uflis mier warmoCenil bibliur winaswarmetyvelT, amjerad warmoCenils qarTveli xalxisaTvis. Tavis mxridan, grigol xanZTeli, mefes,
aSot kuropalats ubrunebs sityvas
aseTive zeaweul reestrSi da Seadris mas, mefe aSot kuropalats, bibliur mefes israelisas, daviTs:
„-daviT winaswarmetyvelisa da
uflisa mier cxebulisa Svilad wodebulo xelmwifeo, mefobaica da
saTnoebanica dagimkvidren qristeman“- ase mimarTavs grigol xanZTeli
saqarTvelos mefes, aSot kuropalats.
es mimarTva gaxlavT pirveli moxsenieba qarTveli bagrationebisa „daviTianebad“.
rogorc vxedavT, TviTon daviTi,
ebraelTa mefe, aq, grigol xanZTelis
sityvaSi, warmodgenilia „winaswarmetyvelad da cxebulad uflis mier“,
xolo aSot kurapalati, qarTvelTa
mefe - ebraelTa mefis, winaswarmetyvelisa da uflis mier cxebuli daviTis „Svilad wodebul xelmwifed“.
giorgi merCule mkafiod aJRerebs
saqarTvelos xelmwifis, anu saqarTvelos mefis „wodebulobas Svilad
daviTisad“. xazgasmiT SevniSnoT:
„wodebas“, „wodebulobas“ Svilad da
ara uSualod Svilobas. e.i. aSot kuropalats, rogorc saqarTvelos mefes, miRebuli aqvs wodeba daviTis
Svilobisa. grigol xanZTeli aSot
kuropalats ki ar eubneba: „ daviT
winaswarmetyvelisa da uflisa mier
cxebulisa STamomavalo xelmwifeo“... aramed:“daviT winaswarmetyvelisa da uflisa mier cxebulisa Svilad wodebulo xelmwifeo“-o. amrigad zemoT moxmobili fragmentiT
mTeli rigi sauwyebo debulebebia
gadmocemuli. pirvel rigSi giorgi
merCule afiqsirebs faqts, rom eklesiis cnobili mama grigol xanZTeli
aSot kuropalats moixseniebs, rogorc bibliuri „daviTis Svilad wodebuls“; gveuwyeba isic, rom am momentisaTvis grigol xanZTeli pirvelmwodebeli ki ar aris, aramed es wodebuloba ukve Semdgaria. grigol xanZTeli iziarebs da siamayiT imeorebs am
tituls. aqvea gacxadebuli safuZvelic am wodebulobisa: ... „ mefobaica
da saTnoebanica dagimkvidren qristeman!“ ufalma Cvenma, ieso qristem dagimkvidroso mefobac da is damaxasiaTebeli Tvisebebic , anu is saTnoebanic, romliTac iwodeo „daviTis Svilad“. saTnoebrivi TvisebebiT naTesauri da mimsgavsbuli, igi, aSot kuropalati - bagrationi, memkvidrea
bibliuri daviTis saTnoebrivi Tvisebebisa. „qarTlis cxovrebaSi“ , erT
adgilze, mematiane ase ityvis giorgi
mefeze, Tamaris mamaze: „daviTianoba
da solomonianoba mohgvardao RvTisagan“. e. i. daviTisa da solomonis
msgavseba, „ maTgvaroba“ mohyvebodao
Tan. „daviTiani“ da „solomoniani“
Tavisi gramatikuli formiT, sxva
araerTi magaliTiT TvalsaCinovdeba,
rogorc „msgavsi daviTisa“ da „msgavsi solomonisa“. Tamar mefe Tavisi mematianis mier erTdroulad moixsenieba missave saTnoebaTa CamonaTvlis
mixedviT „afroditianad“, „daviTianad“, „aleqsandrianad“ da a. S.:
„kualad dajda cxebuli RmrTisa,
Tamar mefe, saydarTa maT, camdi aRmarTebulTa, SuenebiTa miT afroditianiTa da siuxviTa miT mzeebriTa apolonianiTa, satrfo saWureti dabnedamdis da gaWramdis yovelTa gamcdel-mxedTa da Sepyrobamdis wyaljavariTa miT umsgavsoTa saxiTa miT
RmrTiv-qmnuliTa.“
„...gaxelmwifdes didebulni mefobasa Sina amissa... Tamar samgzis sanatrelisaTa, romelman simSvidiTa
daviTianiTa, sibrZniTa solomonianiTa, simxniTa da sauravTa dResisTa
xvalisa ar migdebiTa aleqsandrianiTa, ipyrna zRviT pontosiT zRuadmde
gurganisad da speriTgan darubandamdis da yovelni kavkasiisa imerelni
da amerelni xazareTamdis da skviTTamdis(„qarTlis
cxovreba“,t.2,
gv.32,gv.34, Tb. 1959).
rogorc vxedavT, mematianis mier
miniWebuli Tamar mefis am saxotbo
epiTetebidan - „afroditiani“, „apoloniani“, „daviTiani“, „solomoniani“, „aleqsandriani“ - bagrationTa
oficialuri samefo titulis mniSvneloba mxolod „daviTiansa“ aqvs. aqve unda aRiniSnos isic, rom rogorc
qarTuli, ise somxuri istoriografiis erTxmadi aRiarebiT, qarTveli
da somexi bagrationebi erTi istoriul-genetikuri Ziridan arian momdinareni, magram samefo tituli „daviTianisa“, romelmac saqarTvelos bagration mefeTa droindel saxelmwifo RerbSiac hpova asaxva, mxolod
qarTveli bagrationebis , erTgvarad
specifikuri, wodebrivi maxasiaTeblia, amasTan, rogorc vxedavT, maTive
samefo qveynisa da saxelmwifoebriobis masStabis.
sanam vupasuxebdeT kiTxvas - ratom mainca da mainc „daviTianoba“ da
ga-daviTian-eba aRmoCnda qarTvel bagrationTaTvis saWiro tituli maTi
mefobis RvTiuri warmomavlobis dasadastureblad da ara sxva ram?! -Tavad „bagrationobis“, rogorc sityvisa da cnebis warmomavlobas gvinda Se-
vexoT, ras metyvelbs es cneba TavisTavze, rogorc enobrivi monacemi?
am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT, mecnierebaSi miRebuli TvalsazrisiT, gvaris saxelwodebaSi, sruliad naTlad, gamokvTilia mamakacis saxeli:
„bagrati“ , visganac gvars es wodeba
aqvs miRebuli, anu visganac am saxelwodebiT es gvari iwyeba. mecnierebis
enaze gvaris damwyeb pirvel kacs
uwodeben „eponims“. bunebrivia, bagrationTa warmomavlobis mecnieruli
kvlevisas dRis wesrigSi dgeba garkveva imisac, Tu sadauri saxelia eponimis saxeli, miuxdavad imisa, rom saxelis sadaurobas, SesaZloa, ar hqondes , gadamwyveti mniSvneloba. qarTvel mecnierTa garda am sakiTxs Seexo
profesori adonci, romelmac qarTvel mecnierebTan erTad aRiara, rom
Tavdapirveli forma am saxelisa:
„bagratis“ - iyo „bagarati“. araferi
sadao imaSi, rom qarTuli enis bunebrivi fonetikuri gradaciiT „bagaratidan“ migveRo „bagrati“, ar arsebobs, iseve, rogorc „rusTaveli“-dan
- “rusTveli“. arc araferi gaurkveveli imaSi, rom qarTul realobaSi es
saxeli damkvidrda am Sekvecili formiT, ar arsebobs. bunebrivia isic ,
rom bagrationTa specifikuri samefo
saxelebi: agra-ti , umba-ti, bivrati, aSo-ti, romelTac bagrationTa
ganStoebiTi gvarebi warmoSves,
gvarSi Semonaxul garkveul gagebasTan unda iyos dakavSirebuli. am sakiTxs sagangebod Seexo pavle ingoroyva („giorgi merCule“, gv. 90-99),
Seexo prof . adoncis mcdelobasac,
romelmac „bagarati“ iranuli warmomavlobis saxelad ivarauda: „bagarati“ iranuli „bagadati“ unda iyoso,
magram ar gaumarTlda. am ukanasknl
xanebSi am sakiTxs kidev erTxel miubrunda profesori Salva gabiskiria
da sabolood gamoricxa profesor
adoncis varaudi. marTalia, batoni
pavle ingoroyva bagrationTa samefo
saxelebs qarTul saxelebad miiCnevs,
magram saTaviseuli mniSvneloba
„bagrationTa“ e.w. „eponimisa“, anu
rogor warmoiSva es gvari, auxsneli
darCa.
• Cven SevecadeT, Cveneuli xedviT
agvexsna es dasabamieri warmomavloba
bagrationTa gvarisa, ufro zustad:
SevecadeT, akademiur enaze gadmogveca is, rac azrobrivi myisieri gasxivosnebiT mogveca qarTul winareqristianul salocavebze muSaobis
dros.
• qarTul istoriografiaSi, iseve, rogorc somxur istoriografiaSi, aRiarebuli WeSmaritebaa, rom
bagrationebis samSoblo qveyana aris
• istoriuli „speri“, igiv istoriuli „urartu“, qarTveluri tomebis ZirZveli samosaxlo. urartus
qarTvelurobas miuZRvna ilia WavWavaZem Tavisi saxelganTqmuli istoriografiuli Txzuleba: „qvaTa RaRadi“. qarTveli mecnierebisaTvis cnobilia , rom bagrationTa uZvelesi
gvari ukve winareqristianuli epoqis
wyaroebSi dasturdeba. ramdenadac
gamorkveulia, rom „bagratis“ Tavdapirveli forma „bagaratia“, bunebrivia, saTave anu TaurmniSvneloba am
gvarisac, gvaris sawyisier formaSi
veZeboT: „bagarat-ion“-Si. ras SeiZleboda niSnavdes urartul samyaroSi „bagarati“?
• aRsaniSnavia, rom winareqristianul civilizaciebSi xalxebis sa-
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xelwodebebSi Tavs iCenda maTi religiuri mrwamsi, anu mTavari maxasiaTebeli: ra iyo maTi Tayvaniscemis sagani,
risi an visi Tayvanismcemlni, maRmerTebelni da mimdevrebi iyvnen isini?
ase magaliTad: cnobilia, rom qaldevelebi da asirielebi xorcielad erTi modgmisani iyvnen, magram imis gamo,
rom asirielTa deda RvTaebas qaldevelTa deda RvTaebisagan - qalde
RvTaebisagan gansxvavebuli maxasiaTeblebic miewereboda, saxelic ecvleboda RvTaebas. asirielTa „qaldes“ „asiri“ erqva. mis mimdevar
xalxs ki asirielebi erqvaT. saxel
Secvlili RvTaebis mimdevari xalxi
ara mxolod sxva saxelwodebis xalxad evlineboda gare samyaros, aramed
TiTqmis sxva xalxadac.
• istoriografiulad cnobilia,
rom ara Tu calkeuli xalxebi, aramed calkeuli xalxebis calkeuli
tomebi da Temebic aRiniSnebodnen
Tav-TavianTi saRvTismsaxuro tituliT, anu: visi madideblebic iyvnen da
visi msaxurnic. bagrationTa samSoblo qveyana - urartu - mzis TayvaniscemiT iyo gamorCeuli qveyana. mze,
Tavisi mravalferovani gamovlinebiT
Tayvanicemoda da idideboda: mze amomavali, mze SuadRisa, Cveneburad
“cxraTvala“, mze damcxrali, mze Camavali, anu daisisa da a.S. TviTeuls
Tavisi saxelwodeba hqonda da Tavisi
Tayvanismcemeli hyavda; es gvartomobrivi gadanawileba msaxurebisa
rogorc Cans, erTdoulad, erTgvarad
uzrunvelhyofda dRiur uwyvetobasac RvTismsaxurebaSi da sulieri
Sromis zomierebasac. amasTan RvTaebac mfarvelobda Tavis didgvarovan
msaxursa da madidebels. qveynisa da
xalxis mier aRiarebuli RvTaebrivi
Zala mudmiv da uwyvet Tayvaniscemasa
da msaxurebaSi imyofeboda Tavisi
xalxisagan. es principi, principi
gvar-tomobrivi RvTismsaxurebisa,
saqarTvelos maRal mTianeTSi dResac
SemorCenilia xatis ymebis saxiT. erTi gvari erTi xatis ymaa, meore gvari
- meore xatisa da a. S.
• bibliaSi, ebraelTa sagvareuloTagan mxolod levianTa sagvareulosa aqvs miniWebuli RvTismsaxurebis ufleba. urartus bagrationobaSi, anu im xalxis saxelwodebaSi,
romlebic Zveli urartus mkvidri SeiZleboda yofiliyo, iseve SeiZleboda asaxuliyo misi religiuri msaxurebis niSani, rogorc magaliTad,
dRevandel qarTul gvarebSi, qaldanebSi da qardav- ebSi asaxulia maTi
winaprebis msaxureba RvTaeba qaldesi, garkveul etapze, igiv RvTaeba qardu-si, rac mTeli qarTveli xalxis
saxelwodebaSia Semonaxuli da am saxelwodebis uZvelesobaze miuTiTebs.
qristianuli saukuneebis qarTul
cnobierebaSi qald(igiv „qarT“)
RvTaebis saxelis gardasaxva xdeba naxevrad miTosur eponimad, berZnuli
formis sityvad: qarTl-osad. es yovelive calke sakiTxia.... xolo, rac Seexeba ukve zemoTqmuls, ra gasakviria,
erTi da igive RmerTis saxelwodeba
iyos asaxuli SuamdinareTis „qaldevelobasa“ da dRevandel qarTvelTa
„qarTuelobaSi“, rodesac Tavad qarTuli sityva „RmerTi“, ori didi mecnieris, ivane javaxiSvilisa da niko
maris xedviT, qaldevelTa monaTesave
xalxis, elamitebis naTesauri sityvaa da masSi, qarTul sityvaSi„RmerTi“ - deda RvTaebis mniSvnelobaa etimologiurad damarxuli. saocaria da, bagrationTa sagvareulo
saxelwodebaSi pirdapir vawydebiT
urartuli , anu Tavis droze maTi
mSobliuri qveynis religiur sivrceSi saxeze myofi RvTaebis, mzis RvTaebis asaxvas, rac kuTvnilebiT formaSi, am gvaris matarebeli pirovnebis
RvTsmsaxurebiT daniSnulebaze unda
metyvelbdes.
• „bagrationebi“ urartuSi „bagbartuionebi“ unda iyvnen, anu im mzis
Tayvanismcemelni da msaxurni, romelic urartuSi cnobilia „bag-bartu“-s saxelwodebiT.sxvarigad rom
vTqvaT,, sityva „bagrationi“ unda
iyos sityva „bag-bar-tu-ioni-s“ fonetikuri, anu warmoTqmiTi gradaciebis Sedegad miRebuli forma. kuTvnilebis aRmniSvneli sufiqsi: -ioni ,
cxadia, CaaxSobs winare sityvis: „
bag-bar-tu“-s damasrulebel „u“ bgeras da dagvrCeba: „bagbartioni“. „bagarati“ romelic, profesor adoncis
varaudiT SeiZleboda iranuli „bagadati“ yofiliyo, anu aRiarebuli winare forma „bagratisa“, Tu namdvilad winare formaa „bagratisa“, Tavis
mxriv „bagbarati-dan“ unda modiodes:
• bag - bar - tu bag - [b] ar t[u], (jer amovarda „b“), saidanac miviReT: „bagart“, xolo „bagart“
formidan Tavisuflad aris mosalodneli „ bagaratic“ da „bagratic“, sabolood ki: „bagarationic’
da „bagrationic“.
• iseve, rogorc Tavis sawyisSi
arameli xalxis saxelwodeba; „aramelebi“ deda -RvTaeba „aram-is“ saxelwodebidan modis da „arami“ xalxis
saxelwodebaSi pirvelkacis, am xalxis pirovnuli damwyebis, anu saxalxo eponimis mniSvnelobas iZens, iseve,
rogorc qarTvelTa saxelwodebaSi
RvTaeba „qalde“ saxalxo eponimis(pirvelkacis, visganac momdinareobs
mTeli modgma qarTveli erisa), „qarTlosis“ mniSvnelobas iZens, bagrationebis sagvareulo saxelwodebaSi
asaxuli saxelwodeba im mzis RvTaebisa, romelsac „ bagbartu“ hqvia
urartuSi, fonetikurad, droTa viTarebaSi dayvanili „bagrat“-ze,
iZens gvaris pirvelkacis, eponimis
mniSvnelobas...sinamdvileSi is RvTaebis saxecvlili saxelia. amrigad, gvaris istoriul - etimologiuri analiziT bagrationebi zogadad, da e. i.
kerZod, qarTveli bagrationebi, romelTa titulaturasac vikvlevT, Tavisi sagvareulo saxelwodebis warmomavlobis mixedviT, e. i. pirvel
fesvebiT, urartus mzis qurumebi unda iyvnen.
• saqarTvelos qristianul istoriaSi bagrationTa warmoCena taoklarjeTis mTavrebad, yvela sxva
kuTxis mTavarTagan gansxvavebuli
tituliT, „pitiaxSis“ tituliT,
romlis SinaarsSic am sagvareulos
warmomadgenelTa nataxtaroba igulisxmeba, amasTan farnavazianTa dinastiis STamomavloba, Sors ara varT
im azrisagan, romelic saqarTvelos
pirvel qristian mefes , miriansa da
mcxeTaSi sparseTidan gadmosaxlebul qaldevel mogvebs daakavSirebs
erTmaneTTan. qristianuli saqarTvelos dedaqalaqSi, mcxeTaSi xdeba
qarTuli erovnuli sulis TavisTavSi Cabruneba jer sparseTis, Semdeg
tao-klarjeTis gamovliT. taoklarjeTi, swored bagrationTa samSoblo, tao-klarjeTi, qristianuli saqaraTvelos bagrationTa samTavro xdeba gadabardnili qristianuli eklesia- monastrebiT. taoklarjeTi xdeba qarTuli qristianuli azrovnebisa da qristianuli rwmenis centraluri monakveTi. SemTxveviTi ar aris, rom pirveli wyaro bagrationTa moxseniebisa „daviTianebad“, tao-klarjeTis erTerT monastrul savaneSi Sesdga, grigol xanZTelis savaneSi, saqarTvelos mefis,
aSot kuropalatis stumrobisas monastris winamZRvarTan, grigol xanZTelTan, razedac Cven zemoT ukve
gvqonda saubari. qarTuli erovnuli
TviTSemecnebisa da TviTgamorkvevis
dinamikaSi, romelic tao-klarjeTis
monastruli sivrceebis qristianul
mwvdomelobasTan gvakavSirebs, SeuZ-
lebelia yuradRebis centrSi ar movaqcioT is garemoeba, romelic Tavdapirvelad didma mecnierma, pavle
ingoroyvam mogvawoda, rogorc elementaruli istoriul-filologiuri informacia. cnobili qarTuli sagalobeli: „qebai da didebai qarTulisa enisai“ pavle ingoroyvas mikvleviT unda aRmocenebuliyo grigol
xanZTelis savaneSi. Cvens xedvaSi ki
es imas niSnavs rom, qristianuli Semecnebisa da erovnuli TviTgamorkvevis es didi Sedevri - „qebai da didebai qarTulisa enisai“ - dabadebula
mistiuri azrovnebis imave istoriul
monakveTSi, romelSiac Sesdga saqarTvelos bagrationi mefis pirvelmoxsenieba „daviTianis“ wodebiT. magram
ramdenadac qarTul mecnierebaSi aRiarebuli azriT, „qebai da didebai qarTulisa enisai“ bevrad adre unda iyos
Seqmnili, da ioane zosime mxolod gadamweri unda iyos am sagaloblisa,
versad gaveqceviT im azrs mainc, rom
grigol xanZTelis savaneSi es sagalobeli gansakuTrebul mniSvnelobas iZens. pavle ingoroyva ar gamoricxavs imasac ki, rom es sagalobeli
„grigol xanZTelis cxovrebis“ avtoris, giorgi merCules mier iyos
dawerili, radgan misi, am sagaloblis ritmuli JReradobis modeli
Tanxvedriliao im sagaloblebis
ritmuli modelisa, romelTac eklesiur samyaroSi daumkvidrebiaT „merCuleuli“-s saxeli, anu giorgi merCulesTvis damaxasiaTebeli stilis(pavle ingoroyva: „giorgi merCule“,
Tb. 1956 weli). aq ar SevudgebiT am
problemis ganvrcobas da sakmarisad
miviCnevT im ukamaTo azrs, rom taoklarjeTis am erTerT umniSvnelovanes savaneSi, qarTuli eklesiis didi
mamis, grigol xanZTelis sawinamZRvroSi, grigol xanZTelis, romelsac
Tavad mefe qarTvelTa bibliur winaswarmetyvelT adris, da sadac qarTveli bagrationebi daviT winaswarmetyvelis saTnoebriv memkvidreebad iwodebian, swored aq xdeba qarTuli ezoTeruli sagaloblis „qebai da didebai qarTulisa enisais“ ganvrcoba damkvidreba da ganmtkiceba misi gansakuTrebuli mniSvnelobis Segnebis:
ioane zosime,sagaloblis damsaxurebuli gadamweri da lamis avtorad
cnobili, swored klarjeTis monasterSi eweva am providencialuri ezoTeruli sagaloblis mravalgzis gadaweras, e.i. ganvrcobasa da saTanado
popularizacias, da amis Semdeg midis is sinas mTaze Tavisi gadawerili
sagalobliT. es gaxlavT me-10-e saukune. qarTvelma
mecnierebma swored ioane zosimes danatovari xelnawerebi Camoitanes sinas mTidan me-19-e saukunis meore naxevarSi da me-20-e saukunis gariJrazze.
tao-klarjeTSi, giorgi merCules mier daweril „grigol xanZTelis cxovrebas“ mecniereba zustad
aTariRebs 952 wliT, rac pirdapir
migviTiTebs im faqtze, rom bagrationTa wodeba „daviTianebad“ me-10-e
saukunis pirvel naxevarSi, grigol
xanZTelis cxovrebis grZliobaSia
ukve Semdgari da giorgi merCules mier aris aRnusxuli da ukvdavyofili
„grigol xanZTelis cxovrebaSi“.
ugunureba iqneba ar SevniSnoT kavSiri giorgi merCules mier bagrationi
mefis daviT winaswarmetyvelis Svilad wodebasa da ioane zosimes mier
mravalgzis gadawerili sagaloblis
msoflmxedvelobriv qveteqstebs Soris: saqarTvelos mefis „daviTianobasa“ da qarTuli enis “saRmrTo enad“,
anu „meored mosvlis“ enad gamocxadebas Soris. ramdenadac qarTuli ena
am sagalobliT gamocxadebulia meored mosuli uflis enad, qarTuli ena
winaswarmetyvelurad iRebs saRmrTo
enis, anu RvTaebrivi enis mniSvnelobas. aRsaniSnavia, rom pavle ingoroy-
vas cnobiT „qebai qarTulisa enisai“
moRweuli ar aris Tavisi sruli teqstiT. mas aklia „qebai qarTvelTai“,
romelsac ar mouRwevia Cvenamde. magram am moRweuliTac naTelia, rom
klarjeTis monastrul samyaroSi ena
qarTuli - sauflo enaa da eri qarTveli - sauflo eria. am danakliss „ qebai da didebai qarTulisa enisai“-sas
pirdapir avsebs da qarTveli eris sulier misias agvirgvinebs giorgi
mTawmindelis savedrebeli pavle mociqulisadmi, romelSic avtori pirdapir iZleva gansazRvrebas qarTveli
erisas, rogorc „axali saRmrTo
eris“:
„didebulo, qristes mociqulTa
Tao!
axalsa amas ersa saRmrTosa,
eklesiisa nestuad xmatkbilad,
saRmrToi Sjuli dagvimtkice,
netaro,
rameTu Ziri uRmrToebisa ganhfxuar,
umaRles ufro caTa maRalTa,
lirwebai huriaTai daanTq uesknelTa,
ahxed sam camde, RmrTiv swavlul
iqmen...“
giorgi mTawmindelis es savedrebeli pavle mociqulisadmi, romelmac
giorgi mTawmindelis xelnaweriT moaRwia Cvenamde, giorgi mTawmindelis
mier Sesrulebul pavle mociqulis
epistoleTa Targmanebazea minaweri
da bunebrivia, am epistoleTa konteqstSi ikiTxeba . „israeli ver miswvda
qristes „- acxadebs pavle mociqulirac imas niSnavs misi azriTve, rom
rCeuli eri RvTisa ver miswvda gvirgvins Tavisive sjulisas. pavle mociqulma, rogorc vxedavT, giorgi mTawmindelis xedvaSi „huriaTa bilweba“
danTqa ufskrulSi, ramdenadac, ieso
qristes cecxlovani aRiarebiT da
mociqulebrivi msaxurebiT , man SesZlo kacobriobis winaSe Cadenili ebraelTa codvis gamosyidva. axali
saRmrTo erisaTvis axali saRmrTo
Sjulis damtkicebis vedrebiT , giorgi mTawmindli qarTvel ers, rogorc axal saRmrTo ers Zveli aRTqmis saRmrTo erTan konteqstSi warmoadgens da rogorc axali saRmrTo
eris warmomadgeneli Tavad da mvedrebeli , axali saRmrTo Sjulis damtkicebis saxiT, faqtiurad, igi didi
mociqulisgan, rogorc Zveli aRTqmis rCeuli warmomadgenlisagan, CiraRdnis gadacemas, anu locva-kurTxevas iTxovs qarTveli eris saRmrTo misiis aRsrulebisaTvis. romaelTadmi miweril epistoleSi pavle mociquli mTeli imperiis gasagonad
acxadebs: „rjulis dasasruli ieso
qristea!(rom.10,4), xolo „ israeli,
romelic eZebda simarTlis rjuls,
simarTlis rjuls ver miswvda“(rom.9,31), radgan israeli ver
miswvdao qristes. iseve, rogorc daviT aRmaSenebeli bibliur mefeTadmi
mimarTebaSi, giorgi mTawmindeli,
rogorc warmomadgeneli qristesTvis anTebuli erisa, grZnobs Tavis
warmomadgenlobas upiratesi erisas
qristes gziT da Tavisi vedrebiT pavle mociqulisadmi igi acxadebs agreTve diad warmomadgnlobas pavle
mociqulisas, rogorc Suamdgomlisas Zvelsa da axal aRTqmas Soris,
Zveli aRTqmisa da axali aRTqmis
erebs Soris. giorgi mTawmindelis
gancxadebiT pavle mociqulia is didi
moZRvari, romelsac wilad xvda pativi da uflebamosileba Suamdgomlisa Zvelsa da axal aRTqmas Soris,
da pativi da Rirseba locva-kurTxevis micemisa axali saRmrTo erisaTvis
axali saRmrTo sjulis damtkicebisa
da aRsrulebisaTvis.
sruliad naTeli da gamWvirvalea
pavle mociquliseuli gageba axali aRTqmisa da Zveli aRTqmis, axlis upiratesobisa Zvelis mimarT: „axalio, rom
Tqva, pirvelis siZvele gvaCvena.“brZanebs pavle mociquli, ieso qristes
mieri axali aRTqmis mimarT da sruliad bunebrivad da logikurad gvesaxeba,
rom mTawmindeli mamebis wmindaTa wminda gansjasa da SemecnebaSi pavle mociqulis pirovnuli miukerZoebloba da
RvTiuri brwyinvaleba WeSmaritebis
aRqmaSi, iyo safuZveli da sawindari
misdami zeciuri mfarvelobis Sevedrebisa, zeciuri locva-kurTxevisaTvis
da Tanamonawileobis miRebisaTvis axali eris RvTiur dadginebaSi. es axali
eri ki, giorgi mTawmindelisaTvis misi
mSobliuri eri, qarTveli eri iyo. giorgi mTawmindlis es savedrebeli, bunebrivia, ganagrZobda da avsebda taoklarjeTis mamaTa Semecnebas, avsebda im
Teorias, romelic tao-klarjeTSi,
klarjeTis monastrul samyaroSi yalibdeboda rogorc Teoria qarTveli
erisa da qarTuli enis mesianisturi
daniSnulebisa. saRmrTo enaze molaparake xalxis mesianisturi daniSnulebis WeSmariteba , am xalxisa da misi
qveynis uflebamosilebaSic unda asaxuliyo. xalxisa da qveynis simbolo da
warmomadgeneli mefea. da radgan am
drois epoqaluri RirebulebebiTa da
rwmeniT mesianisturi daniSnuleba
mxolod daviTis modgmam SeiZleba
aRasrulos, iqmneba saWiroeba mesianisturi daniSnulebis enaze molaparake
xalxma miiRos daviT winaswarmetyvelis sulieri da moraluri memkvidris
statusi, anu wodeba misi sulieri
STamomavlobisa. amitom mesianisturi
daniSnulebis enaze molaparake xalxis
pirovnuli gansaxierebani, samefo dinastiis warmomadgenlebi iReben wodebas israelianTa didi mefis, daviT winaswarmetyvelis Svilobisas, iseve,
rogorc pirovnulad iRebs ieso qriste xorcieli „Zeobis“ wodebas imave
bibliuri daviTisas. bibliuri RirebulebebiTa da rwmeniT mesia mxolod daviTianobis dasturiT imkvidrebs Tavis
RvTiTboZebul uflebamosilebas. aq
marTlac Svelaa, movixmoT misi uwmidesobis, sruliad saqarTvelos kaTalikos - patriarqis, kirion meoris saZagliSvilis ugabedulesi Sefaseba
ebrauli dogmatebisa, romliTac, kaTalikosis azriT, „ebraelebma TiTqmis
ori aTaseuli weli TavianT damonebaSi
amyofes mTeli msoflio“. Zalzed mniSvnelovania, rom saxarebaSi Tavad ieso
qriste aprotestebs am saWiroebas
„daviTianobisas“: - ras amboben Cemze,
visi Ze ariso?- ekiTxeba igi sadukevlebs da sadukevlebi pirdapir pasuxoben: „-daviTis.“-o. maSin ieso qriste
etyvis maT iseT sityvas, rom veRarasodes gaubedaven isini SekiTxvasa da SekamaTebas: - Tqven xom aRiarebT, rom me
isa var, vinc uflad aRiara daviTma?
Tu ufali var misi , Ze rogorRa var?!
(maTe, 22, 45)
maTes saxarebaSi, sadac ieso
qriste pirvelive striqoniT aris gamocxadebuli „Zed daviTisad, Zed abraamisad“, imave maTe maxaroblis ganmartebiT xorcieli STamomavali aviTisa ver iqneba, radgan qmari mariamisa, realuri STamomavali daviTisa
da abraamisa, ieso qristes xorcieli
mama ar aris. ieso qriste mxolodSobilia dedisagan qalwulebrivi SobiT. xorcieli mama mas ara hyavs. amitom misi „daviTianoba“ faqtiurad
wodebaa, romelsac misi mesiad movlinebis aRiarebisaTvis is garemo da is
xalxi saWiroebs, romelSiac ieso
qriste imyofeba.
(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)
SekveTili masala. narkvevSi
gamoTqmul mosazrebebze da faqtebis
sisworeze pasuxismgebelia avtori
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saqarTvelos diasporis saministros
da `saerTo gazeTis~ erToblivi proeqti
ven Si `g ns kuTrebul~
p cientebs g ns kuTrebuli
eqimi elodeb T
soso nanobaSvili
urTulesi gadawyvetilebis miReba saqarTvelos istoriaSi aseve urTules dros
mouwia _ 1991 wlis dasawyisSi Tbilisi samoqalaqo
omis Wrilobebis moSuSebas
is-is iyo iwyebda, xolo qveyana qaosSi da burusiT moculi momavalis imediT cxovrobda. im periodSi bevrma
scada aqedan gaRweva, rom sakuTari Tavica da ojaxis wevrebic fizikurad gadaerCina.
soso nanobaSvilis biografia radikalurad gansxvavebulia _ ukve warmatebuli eqimi pirvelad venaSi gacvliTi
programis meSveobiT moxvda,
raTa Tavis specialobaSi dasavleTSi ukve kargad aprobirebuli samedicino siaxleebi
Seeswavla. aeTvisebina is meTodebi, romlebic venis sauniversiteto klinikaSi arsebobda da am gamocdilebiT
gamdidrebuli Tavis qveyanas
dabruneboda.
venaSi yofnisas samecniero
saqmianobaSic Caeba da roca
gacvliTi programis vada amoiwura, saqarTveloSi dabrunda, Tumca mcire droiT _ baton sosos SesTavazes, samedicino kariera venaSi gaegrZelebina.
`emociurad Zalian gamiWirda saboloo gadawyvetilebis miReba _ aq myavda deda, ojaxi da maTi xangrZlivad mitoveba ar mindoda. amasobaSi TbilisSi viTareba gauaresda, jandacvis sistemis
ngreva daiwyo da mivxvdi _ aq
yofniT bevrs verafers SevZlebdi, ucxoeTidan ki ufro
metad davexmarebodi aq myofebs, vidre darCeniT. Znelia,
roca ar arsebobs elementaruli sayofacxovrebo Tu samuSao pirobebi, ar aris wyali. es ufro metad Znelia samedicino dargSi, miT umetes,
qirurgisTvis, roca TiTqos
xel-f
fexSekruli xar, operaciebs ver akeTeb~.
ase aRmoCnda Cveni Tanamemamule ioseb nanobaSvili 1991
wels venaSi, sauniversiteto
klinikis sisxlZarRvTa qirurgiis departamentSi, sadac
ukve or aTeul welze metia profesoris rangSi muSaobs.
mravali wlis gadasaxedidan fiqrobs,
rom maSin swori gadawyvetileba miiRo:
Zalian
`iqidan
xSirad vexmarebodi sxvadasxva saavadmyofos medikamentebiTa Tu samedicino aparaturiT, vagzavnidi sasmen aparatebs smenadaqveiTebuli bavSvebisTvis~.
90-ian wlebSi momxdari
politikuri
kataklizmebi
cxovrebis yvela sferos Seexo da rom ara ucxouri humanitaruli daxmareba, bevrad
Zneli gadasatani iqneboda is
wlebi. iyo sxvadasxva saxelmwifos keTili neba, daxmareba aRmoeCina omgadatanili
qveynisTvis da arsebobdnen
erTeuli adamianebi, romlebic
yvelafers akeTebdnen, rom
samSobloSi darCenilTaTvis
yofa SeemsubuqebinaT, janmrTeloba SeenarCunebinaT. soso
nanobaSvili erT-erTi maTgania.
`bevri adamiani Camogvyavda,
romlebsac aq ufasod vukeTebdiT operaciebs. es organizaciuli TvalsazrisiT ioli
ar iyo, magram mainc bevri ram
SevZeliT. daxmarebebs vagzavnidiT saqarTveloSi, Tumca
xSiri iyo SemTxvevebi, roca
gveubnebodnen, gagzavnili tvirTi ver miviReT, gzaSi daikargao. xalxis gasaWirze xelis moTboba bevrma scada.
amitomac, gadavwyviteT, konkretul daxmarebas konkretuli adresati hyoloda _ romelime saavadmyofo an misi
romelime ganyofileba. iZulebuli gavxdiT, mkacrad gagvekontrolebina tvirTis ganawileba. mimRebs ekisreboda
valdebuleba, medikamentebi
usasyidlod gaeca maTTvis,
visac is sWirdeboda~.
mogvianebiT saqarTvelodan
avstriaSi pacientebis Cayvanasa da maTTvis saTanado mkurnalobaze zrunvis periodic
dadga. ZiriTadad mihyavdaT
bavSvebi, upiratesoba eniWebodaT axalgazrdebs. maT ukeTebdnen iseT operaciebs, romlebic saqarTveloSi im dros
jer kidev ar tardeboda.
batoni sosos TaosnobiT
qarTveli studentebi staJirebas gadian venis sauniversiteto klinikaSi, sadac Cveni
Tanamemamule pirveli qarTveli iyo, romelmac eqimad muSaobis nebarTva miiRo. saqarTveloSi Camosvlisas batoni
soso ZiriTadad operaciebs
akeTebda, mogvianebiT ki gadawyda, rom leqciebic waekiTxa samedicino institutis
studentebisTvis da maTTvis
Tavisi mravalwliani gamocdileba gaeziarebina.
Tbilisis sauniversiteto
klinikasa da venis universitetis qirurgiis ganyofilebas Soris TanamSromlobac
soso nanobaSvilis damsaxurebaa. Tbilisis klinikaSi sisxlZarRvTa qirurgiis axlad
gaxsnil ganyofilebaSi
qarTvel
kolegebTan
erTad gaakeTa operaciebi. TbilisSi, ganaTlebis saministros da diasporebTan urTierTobis ministris iniciativiT gamarTul `qarTvel mecnierTa forumis~ farglebSi, sxvadasxva qveynis warmomadgenlebTan
erTad
kolegebis, samedicino
universitetis studentebisa da dainteresebuli sazogadoebis winaSe waikiTxa sajaro
leqciebi,
romlebic
Tanamedrove medicinis
yvelaze aqtualur Temebs exeba. esenia: sisxlZarRvTa
qirurgia,
arteriuli anevrizmebi
da misi diagnostikamkurnaloba, venebis paTologiebi... misi Teoriuli
codna da praqtikuli gamocdileba uaRresad mniSvnelovania qarTveli medikosebisTvis.
saqarTvelodan avstriaSi
bevri midis samkurnalod,
radgan iq egulebaT Cveni Tanamemamule, saxelmoxveWili
medikosi-qirurgi, gulisxmieri da uaRresad yuradRebiani
adamiani. batoni soso qarTvelebs gansakuTrebul pacientebad miiCnevs:
`yvelaze meti wuwuni qarTvel pacientebs uyvarT da
lodini, Tundac mcire xniT,
uWirT. amis gamo ukmayofilebas daufaravad gamoxataven.
maqsimalurad vcdilob, es
problemebi ar SeeqmnaT~.
avstriaSi, iseve rogorc
ucxoeTis umravles qveyanaSi,
samuSao dRe dilaadrian iwyeba. batoni soso 7 saaTze ukve klinikaSia da stacionarSi
myof pacientebTan urTierTobs, Semdeg akeTebs an gegmavs operaciebs. mogvianebiT
axalgazrda medikosebTan agrZelebs muSaobas da kerZo pacientebic hyavs. ase rom, misi
samuSao dRe xSirad 12 saaTze met xans grZeldeba. did
dros uTmobs pacientebTan
urTierTobas, raTa AmaT auxsnas, SesaZloa, detaluradac
ki, mkurnalobis ra strategias gegmavs, sxvadasxva etapze
ra manipulaciebia saWiro, ra
SesaZlo sirTuleebi SeiZleba
gaCndes mkurnalobis procesSi. esec xom erTgvari Terapiaa, rasac xSirad Tavs ari-
is samecniero-kvleviTi institutis sabWos wevri. am institutis miznebs Soris erTerTi qarTuli emigraciis ganfenilobis, qarTuli diasporebis, qarTuli emigraciis mizezebisa da Sedegebis Seswavlaa.
soso nanobaSvili venaSi
meuRlesa da vaJiSvilTan erTad cxovrobs. meuRle _ nona lomiZe, musikaTmcodnea,
ucxoeTSi Tavisi specialobiT
muSaobs, iqaur arqivebSi musikasTan dakavSirebuli dokumentebis moZiebiT aris dakavebuli. qalbatoni nona 20 weliwadia Cveni saxelovani Tanamemaulis, amerikuli baletis fuZemdeblis jorj balanCinis cxovrebisa da Semoqmedebis kvleviT
aris dakavebuli. vidre balanCiniT dainteresdeboda, saintereso Sexvedra hqonda
qarTvel
kompozitorTan andria balanCivaZesTan, romlis mogonebebi _
`Cemi Zma _ jorj balanCini~ jer kidev
1990 wels gamoaqveyna gazeT `samSobloSi~. nona lomiZe ramdenjerme Cavida amerikaSi, raTa jorj
balanCinis arqivi moeZia da Seeswavla,
Sexvda im qalbatonebs, romlebsac uSualo
urTierToba
hqondaT balanCinTan
da misi memkvidreoba
nona lomiZe stumrad
darCaT. 2011 wels
qarTul radioSi
nona lomiZis avtodebs eqimTa umravlesoba.
robiT gamoica wigni `balanCi`qarTvelebma TavianT janm- ni~, romelSic, araerT sainrTelobaze zrunva daiwyes _ tereso masalasTan erTad,
savarjiSo darbazebSi dadian, pirvelad gamoqveynda jorj
stumroben sacurao auzebs, balanCinis xelnaweri notebi.
ician, raoden mniSvnelovania
vaJiSvils _ giorgis mrafexiT siaruli da jansaRi valmxrivi interesebi aqvs.
kveba~.
swavlobs venis saerTaSoriso
profesori soso nanobaS- skolaSi, gamorCeulad uyvars
vili sapatio Tbiliselia da TxilamurebiT sriali da rages wodeba mas ucxoeTSi bis TamaSi, TviTonac warmatemcxovreb Cvens Tanamemauleeb- bul sportsmens Zalian axaTan _ msaxiob oleg basilaS- rebs qarTveli ragbistebis
vilTan, frankfurtSi moRvawe bolodroindeli warmatebebi.
filologsa da mweralTan maucxoeTSi mcxovrebi qarnana TandaSvilTan erTad mie- Tuli ojaxis yvela wevri
niWa da Tbilisis simboluri warmatebulia Tavis saqmeSi
gasaRebic gadaeca.
da cdiloben am saqmianobiT
batoni soso, ucxoeTSi yovelTvis hqondeT kavSiri
moRvawe sxva qarTvelebTan TavianT samSoblosTan, saqarerTad, aris qarTuli emigra- TvelosTan.
ciis istoriisa da geografielza nabaxteveli
saerTo gazeTi 17
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`nulovani tolerantoba~ mis oficialur
gamocxadebamde gacilebiT adre daiwyo
daviT gagniZe
`saerTo gazeTi~ agrZelebs
interviuebis cikls policiis vice-ppolkovnik daviT gagniZesTan.
Cveni respodenti or aTeul welze met xans muSaobda saqarTvelos Sss-ss operatiul samsaxurebSi, maT Soris saakaSvilis
mmarTvelobis periodSic. aqedan
gamomdinare, kargad icnobs nacreJimis samarTaldamcavi struqturebis muSaobis stils. rogorc irkveva, `vardosnebis~ policiam saakaSvilis cnobil lozungamde `yvelani cixeSi~, anu
nulovani tolerantobis sajarod gamocxadebamde daiwyo `arasasurveli~ personebis cixeSi masobrivi gamweseba. sxvaze rom
araferi vTqvaT, 2004 wlis ivnis-sseqtemberSi 96 adamiani aRmoCnda gisosebs miRma, romelTac
Turme cecxlsasroli iaraRi,
sabrZolo masala da narkotikuli nivTierebebi aRmouCines. daviT gagniZe darwmunebulia, rom
dakavebulebs policiam TviTon
Caudo es e.w. nivTmtkicebebi.
`specoperaciebi~ etapobrivad
Catarda jer dedaqalaqSi, xolo
Semdeg samegrelosa da kaxeTSi.
aqve SemogTavazebT am `specoperaciebis~ dros dakavebulTa sias,
romelic Cveni respodentis mier
oficialur informaciaze dayrdnobiTaa momzadebuli.
2004 wlis 24 ivnisi
TbilisSi daakaves jemal domentis Ze oqriaSvili, dabadebuli 1970 wels, mcxovrebi TbilisSi CodriSvilis quCaze, romelsac Caudes akm-is sistemis avtomaturi cecxlasroli iaraRi (avtomati) #XB3763 30 vazniT da `naganis~ sistemis revolveri 8 vazniT.
masTan erTad daakaves misi Zma, 1975
wels dabadebuli giorgi oqriaSvili im motiviT, rom TiTqos isini
ZviradRirebuli, prestiJuli avtomanqanebis gamtaceblebi iyvnen.
zurab vaJas Ze namoraZe 1978 w. d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, naqalaqevis quCaze, Caudes avtomati
ak-74 6429097.
emzar demuris Ze kamlaZe
- 1980 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, kisisxevis quCaze, Caudes `nagani~.
besik iosebis Ze goginaSvili - 1983 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi didi jixaiSis quCaze, Caudes 30,3 grami narkotikuli nivTiereba `marixuana~ da rgd-1-is tipis
xelyumbara.
mamuka mixeilis Ze miSvelaZe - 1976 w.d. mcxovrebi Tbi-
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi
ix. wina nomerSi
lisSi, samRereTis
quCaze, Caudes avtomati
akm
#CB87336 30 vazniT. masTan erTad
daakaves misi Zma,
1979 w.d. manuCar
miSvelaZe, romelsac Caudes 0,07
grami `heroini~.
ramaz grigolis Ze sulaZe - 1970 w.d.
mcxovrebi TbilisSi, saakaZis quCaze,
Caudes avtomati akm
#CB9853 30 vazniT.
murTaz murTazis Ze miqiaSvili - 1976 w.d.
mcxovrebi TbilisSi, kelaptriSvilis
quCaze, Caudes avtomati
aks #
6443780.
2 ivlisi
vano uSangis Ze xatiaSvili - 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, moskovis gamzirze, Caudes avtomati akm #ÏÂ2467 30 vazniT.
aleqsandre givis Ze xatiaSvili - 1975 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, varkeTili-3-is dasaxlebaSi,
Caudes avtomati akm #4509503.
giorgi robertis Ze zaxariani - 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, qinZmaraulis quCaze, Caudes
avtomati akm #ÏÃ 5338 30 vazniT.
ilia rolandis Ze xoneliZe _ mcxovrebi TbilisSi, me-2
navTluRis dasaxlebaSi, Caudes avtomati akm #ÐÞ 9049.
lado revazis Ze naveriani – 1981 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi,
kalaubnis quCaze, Caudes avtomati
akm #794532 30 vazniT.
ramaz romanis Ze cincaZe 1966 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi qinZmaraulis quCaze, Caudes avtomati
akm #790976 30 vazniT.
zurab murmanis Ze saxvaZe
- 1979 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi,
varkeTili-3-is dasaxlebaSi, Caudes
avtomati akm #4580826 22 vazniT.
grigol fridonis Ze javaxiSvili - 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi
TbilisSi, varkeTili-3-is dasaxlebaSi, Caudes avtomati akm #ÒÒ1786
30 vazniT.
armen vladimeris Ze oganovi - 1966 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, martyofis quCaze, Caudes avtomati akm #Ì× 907 30 vazniT.
roland felomenis Ze Samfriani - 1966 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi observatoriis quCaze, Caudes avtomati akm #794876 da `gekos~ 50 cali vazna.
5 ivlisi
dimitri aleqsandres Ze
boWoriSvili - 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, faliaSvilis quCaze,
Caudes avtomati aks #1549984 30
vazniT da 0,03 grami `heroini~.
daviT Teimurazis Ze gedeSuri - 1973 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, tabiZis quCaze, Caudes avtomati akm #ÏÌ 5935 27 vazniT.
daviT givis Ze dekanoiZe 1976 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi WavWavaZis gamzirze, Caudes avtomati
akm #ÓÁ 3889 30 vazniT da 0,0138
grami `suboteqsi~.
levan levanis Ze mRebriSvili - 1975 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, wyneTis quCaze, Caudes `makarovis~
sistemis
pistoleti
#ÀÌ5359 8 vazniT.
sulxan giorgis Ze xatiZe
- 1983 w.d. mcxovrebi nucubiZis
ferdobis me-3 mikroraionSi, Caudes
avtomati aks #81-1193304 30 vazniT.
andro mixeilis Ze nacv-
liSvili - 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi
TbilisSi, doliZis quCaze, Caudes
avtomati aks #14-52976 30 vazniT.
levan Teimurazis Ze mZeluri - 1981 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, wyneTis quCaze, Caudes avtomati akm #3499481 29 vazniT.
zurab guramis Ze badriZe
- 1969 w.d. mcxovrebi TbilisSi, nucubiZis ferdobis dasaxlebis me-2
mikroraionSi, Caudes 2 cali rgd-s
tipis xelyumbara.
gela zaqarias Ze obgaiZe
- 1965 w.d. mcxovrebi TeTri wyaros
raionis sofel mJavisSi, Caudes
rgd-s tipis xelyumbara.
7 ivlisi
gela vaJas Ze beJaniSvili
- 1975 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanis raionis sofel veliscixeSi 7 ivliss
mas Caudes akm-is 30 cali vazna.
mixeil gias Ze mirianaSvili - 1984 w.d. mcxovrebi veliscixeSi, Caudes 10 grami `marixuana~.
levan giorgis Ze sosebaSvili - 1967 w.d. mcxovrebi veliscixeSi, Caudes 15 cali `gekos~ vazna.
givi mixeilis Ze koWataSvili - 1952 w.d. mcxovrebi veliscixeSi, Caudes 25 grami `marixuana~.
zaqaria iuris Ze papunaSvili - 1984 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanis raionis sofel SaSianSi, Caudes 11 grami `marixuana~.
Temur akakis Ze mirianaSvili - 1950 w.d. mcxovrebi SaSianSi, Caudes TviTnakeTi `nagani~.
Temur famas Ze biwkinaSvili - 1958 w.d. mcxovrebi SaSianSi,
Caudes gadaWrili `geko~ da akm-is
3 cali vazna.
8 ivlisi
daviT jemalis Ze gabitaSvili - 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi
sofel veliscixeSi, Caudes `makarovis~ 7 vazna.
vefxia karlos Ze cimintia - 1974 w.d. mcxovrebi walenjixis raionis daba jvarSi, Caudes
avtomati akm #112977 24 vazniT.
iago palikos Ze samuSia 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi walenjixis raionis sofel liaSi, Caudes akm
#CB 5136 14 cali vazniT.
viqtor elgujas Ze belqania - 1968 w.d. mcxovrebi walenjixaSi, Tamar mefis quCaze, Caudes
akm #CB 8371 25 cali vazniT.
mamuka vaJas Ze ejibia 1967 w.d. mcxovrebi senakSi, quTaisis quCaze, Caudes akm #CÏ3048 26
vazniT.
ilia liuteris Ze kvaracxelia - 1971 w.d. mcxovrebi
walenjixaSi, quCulorias quCaze,
Caudes akm # 8192 30 vazniT.
paata aleqsandres Ze kvaracxelia - 1974 w.d. mcxovrebi
walenjixis raionis sofel jvalSi,
Caudes akm #CX0835 28 vazniT.
valeri evtixis Ze mzarelua - 1954 w.d. mcxovrebi senakSi,
ZnelaZis quCaze, Caudes akm #320823
20 vazniT.
laSa daviTis Ze bukia -
1977 w.d. mcxovrebi xobis raionis
sofel xeTaSi, Caudes akm #CE 8365
18 vazniT.
vaxtang vaxtangis Ze lataria - 1973 w.d. mcxovrebi xeTaSi, Caudes akm #808977 26 vazniT.
pavle jogos Ze gergaia 1960 w.d. mcxovrebi xobSi, baraTaSvilis quCaze, Caudes akm #8935 20
vazniT.
valerian panteleimonis
Ze siWinava - 1973 w.d. mcxovrebi
xobis raionis sofel nojixevSi, Caudes akm #CB8625 15 vazniT.
zurab pantes Ze basaria 1956 w.d. mcxovrebi xeTaSi, Caudes
akm #ßÌ 2142 16 vazniT.
daviT demuris Ze Cartia 1979 w.d. mcxovrebi xobis raionis
sofel meore gurifulSi, Caudes
akm #ÐÌ7496 10 vazniT.
giorgi melitonis Ze adonia - 1962 w.d. mcxovrebi xobSi,
gamsaxurdias quCaze, Caudes akm
#ÑÂ9365 10 vazniT.
manuCar zemalis Ze qardava - 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi walenjixaSi, Sanavas quCaze, Caudes akm
#ÌÀ8029-65 25 vazniT.
elguja Salvas Ze beraia 1967 w.d. mcxovrebi senakSi, bagrationis quCaze, Caudes akm #ËÓ
9293-67 14 vazniT.
besik lodonis Ze daiani 1969 w.d. mcxovrebi senakSi, ninoSvilis quCaze, Caudes akm #ÀÈ 643
24 vazniT.
gela Sudulas Ze Cartaia
- 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi senakis raion
sofel xorSi, Caudes akm #ÌØ
6807-65 4 vazniT.
Tengiz titikos Ze xulordava - mcxovrebi senakSi,
eliavas
quCaze,
Caudes
akm
#ÌÑ1164-65 23 vazniT.
xviCa dodis Ze kokaia 1965 w.d. mcxovrebi senakSi, daviT
aRmaSeneblis quCaze, Caudes akm
#9835-91 16 vazniT.
kandid kapitonis Ze naneiSvili - 1942 w.d. mcxovrebi senakSi, rusTavelis quCaze, Caudes
akm #XM 7958 24 vazniT.
mixeil mixeilis Ze wurwumia - 1982 w.d. mcxovrebi zugdidis raion sofel odiSSi, Caudes
`abrezi~ da niRabi.
papuna iuris Ze ubilava 1975 w.d. mcxovrebi odiSSi, Caudes
nomerwaSlili `valteris~ sistemis
pistoleti 5 vazniT.
20 ivlisi
pavle xvTisos Ze xosroSvili - 1940 w.d. mcxovrebi axmetaSi, rusTavelis quCaze, 88 grami
`marixuana~.
vaxtang biWikos Ze boWoriSvili - 1980 w.d. mcxovrebi
Telavis raionis sofel buSetSi,
Caudes Caudes xelyumbara f-1.
ivane vaJas Ze giorgaZe 1977 w.d. Caudes 13 grami `marixuana~ da xelyumbara f-1.
alik andros Ze qamqaZe 1972 w.d. mcxovrebi buSetSi, Caudes `abrezi~.
arCil dimitris Ze RoRe-
liSvili - 1972 w.d. mcxovrebi
Telavis raionis sofel akuraSi, Caudes `abrezi~ da 14 grami `marixuana~.
Tamaz SoTas Ze rexviaSvili - 1966 w.d. mcxovrebi TelavSi,
boWoriSvilis quCaze, Caudes xelyumbara f-1.
4 agvisto
mamuka emzaris Ze petriaSvili - 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi lagodexSi, aRmaSeneblis quCaze, 2004
wlis, Caudes 0,5 grami `opiumi~.
giorgi olegis Ze kapanaZe
- 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi lagodexSi,
bagrationis quCaze, Caudes 0,5 grami `opiumi~.
Tamaz Salvas Ze modebaZe
- 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi lagodexis
raionis sofel vardisubanSi, Caudes
`abrezi~ da 6,2 grami `marixuana~.
malxaz jemalis Ze alfaiZe - 1979 w.d. mcxovrebi lagodexis raionis sofel msxalgorSi, Caudes 2 cali xelyumbara f-1.
samir heidaris Ze TaRievi
- 1952 w.d. mcxovrebi lagodexis
raionis sofel ganjalaSi, Caudes 2
cali xelyumbara f-1.
Tengiz mixeilis Ze kurtaniZe - 1975 w.d. mcxovrebi lagodexis raionis sofel ninigorSi, Caudes 20 grami `marixuana~.
daTo Tamazis Ze sefiaSvili - 1977 w.d. mcxovrebi lagodexis raionis sofel lelianSi, Caudes 14 grami `marixuana~.
mamuka Tengizis Ze SeiTniSvili - 1976 w.d. mcxovrebi dedofliswyaros raionis sofel jafariZeSi, 14 agvistos Caudes xelyumbara f-1, akm-is 7 cali vazna da
17 grami `marixuana~.
biZina zurabaSvili – isic
xsenebuli `specoperaciebis~ dros
daakaves, Tumca sxva informacia ar
fiqsirdeba.
9 seqtemberi
oTar konstantines Ze
elizbaraSvili - 1960 w.d.
mcxovrebi gurjaanSi, daviT aRmaSeneblis quCaze, Caudes xelyumbara f1 da Tofi.
zaza Tamazis Ze lazaSvili - 1981 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanSi, furcelaZis quCaze, Caudes akm
#4652986 30 vazniT.
levan iosebis Ze mequriSvili - 1985 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanSi, TayaiSvilis quCaze, Caudes
`abrezi~.
vladimer amiranis Ze barsegovi - 1982 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanSi, daviT aRmaSeneblis quCaze,
Caudes `abrezi~.
Temur karlos Ze jibinaSvili - 1984 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanSi, TayaiSvilis quCaze, Caudes
xelyumbara f-1 da 17,5 grami `marixuana~.
malxaz guramis Ze sisauri - 1972 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanis raionis sofel veliscixeSi, Caudes 22,5 grami `marixuana~.
giorgi aleqsandres Ze
yandiaSvili - 1985 w.d. mcxovrebi gurjaanSi, TayaiSvilis quCaze,
Caudes 21,3 grami `marixuana~.
11 seqtemberi
aleqsandre jemalis Ze
bazeraSvili - 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi TelavSi, WavWavaZis quCaze, Caudes 22 grami `marixuana~.
Temur ajioRli - 1944 w.d.
mcxovrebi Telavis raionis sofel
yarajalaSi, Caudes xelyumbara f-1
da 20,5 grami `marixuana~.
goCa nodaris Ze wamalaSvili - 1968 w.d. mcxovrebi Telavis raionis sofel akuraSi, Caudes
akm #467428 25 vazniT.
goCa daviTis Ze oTiaSvi-
19 gv.
18 saerTo gazeTi
yvela is `importuli~
ubedureba, rac viTom saakaSvilis xelisuflebam moitana
da
daamkvidra,
dRemde
grZeldeba da aucileblad
gagrZeldeba momavalSic. am
ubedurebas, romelsac e.w
dasavleTis SiSiT ar `uwamles~ da is saxelic ki ver
daarqves, rasac warmoadgens,
igive damaxasiaTebeli Tviseba aqvs, rac e.w dasavleTis
sxva, laboratoriebSi specialurad gamoyvanil borot
Stamebs, antibiotikze rom
metad Riziandeba, ufro gaavebuli isxmas axal xorcs.
es rom qarTuli movlena ki
ara, aramed saerTaSoriso xasiaTis movlenaa, amis dasturi saxezea, sisxlSi amoTxvril da cecxlSi gaxveul
ukrainaSi EerTimeoris miyolebiT uxmoben saxelmwifo
postebze saqarTvelodan saakaSvilis sisxliani reJimis
aRmasrulebleblebs.
swored
amitom
arian
dRes ase gulmocemulebi saqarTveloSi darCenili da
ukrainaSi gadaportirebuli,
saqarTvelos axali xelisuflebis `nakohabitacaievi~,
magram qarTveli xalxis mier
damnaSaved cnobili pirebic;
swored amitomaa, rom
Tavdacvis saministros samxedro policiis departamentis yofili ufrosi, megis
qardava
politpatimrebs
emuqreba, iuri vazagaSvili
mogoneba iqneba, iseT dReSi
CavyriT yofil politpatimrebs, vnaxoT erTi, rogori
politpatimrebi iyvnen, roca
televiziebSi rigs davayenebT da daiwyeben imis mtkicebas, ar varT politpatimrebio; an _ saqarTvelos
iusticiis yofili ministri
ukrainidan rom imuqreba, weliwadnaxevarSi mTel saqarTvelos dedas gitirebT, amogalpobT cixeebSi da maSin
gagaxsenebT, me ra mindoda
aqo da a.S
arasamTavrobo organizacia `poziciis~ aRmasrulebeli direqtori guram adamaSvili acxadebs, rom gasuli
wlis dekemberSi saakaSvilis
mier kievis maxloblad gamarTul Sexvedraze, romelsac ungreTidan Casuli adeiSvili, xolo saqarTvelodan giorgi baramiZe eswrebda, biZina ivaniSvilis likvidaciis gegma SeimuSaves, radgan sxvagvarad saqarTveloSi
ver dabrundebian da amisaTvis aucileblad gamoiyeneben
ukrainul SeiaraRebul dajgufebas. Mmisive informaciiT,
saakaSvilma ukrainaSi saqar-
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vin Seusrulebs `nacbandas~ sruliad
samarTlian moTxovnas, rom saswrafod
unda iqnas gamoZiebuli yvela danaSauli
Tvelos xelisuflebaSi dabrunebis moqmedebaTa ganxorcielebis Stabi Seqmna.
marTla `nacdamnaSaveebis~
muqarebia Tu maTi SekveTiT
vrceldeba msgavsi gzavnilebi, amazec ki ar ibertys
yurs vinme, vTqvaT, prokuratura an Sss, rom gaarkvios,
marTlac maTgan aris wamosuli msgavsi tipis qadili Tu
konkretuli mediasaSualebebi an calkeuli pirebi avrceleben da maT unda moeTxovoT pasuxi saqarTvelos mosaxleobis demoralizaciisaTvis;
gaxmaurebuli mkvlelobebidan, dRes Svilmokluli
mama, iuri vazagaSvili aafeTqes, guSin _ Svilmokluli
deda, saRsalamaTi irine enuqiZe gardaicvala uecrad (kidev ramdeni adamiani gardaicvala saeWvo viTarebaSi, calke sakiTxia), umaqnisi sagamoZiebo samsaxurebi ki pirdaRebulebi sxedan da mxolod
statistikiT kavdebian...
es qveyanaa?! esaa samarTlianobis aRsruleba? saxezea
adamiani, laSa SaviZe, romelic yveba saakaSvilis reJimis mier miRebul davalebaze,
rom unda moekla didubis eklesiasTan mokluli buta
robaqiZis deda ia metreveli.
misi TqmiT, is piradad Seaxvedres afxazeTis Sinagan saqmeTa sammarTvelos maSindeli ufrosis moadiles irakli fircxalavas da butas
dedis mokvlis scenaric man
gaacno. SaviZe pirdapir asaxelebs pirebs, romlebic
aseve avalebdnen, rom moeZebna iseTi vinme, romelic
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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ze
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ityoda, rom zura vazagaSvilma gaitaca, daWra da amas
avalebdnen konkretuli pirebi: irakli fircxalava, giorgi xizaniSvili (imJamad
kriminaluri policiis departamentis pirveli sammarTvelos ufrosi), kaxa legaSvili da rogorc eubnebodnen, saqmis kursSi iyo
ivane merabiSvilis moadgile
gia lorTqifaniZec. prokuratura ki Tavs iSterebs! da
mxolod prokuratura? _
faqtis winaSe dgeba qveyana,
rom mkvlelebs didi mondomebiT da Riad mfarveloben
viRacebi.
biznesmeni, Sps `maRlivis~
damfuZnebeli kote kokaiac
pirdapir adebs xels konkretul pirs, ratomRac isic
irakli fircxalavas, sikvdiliT da ojaxis ganadgurebiT
damemuqra, pirdapir miTxra,
oTxi trupi myavs da mexuTe
Sen iqnebi Tu ise ar gaakeTeb, rogorc me getyvio...
swored amitomaa, rom
igive irakli fircxalava,
imis nacvlad, rom prokuroris kiTxvebs pasuxobdes,
sxvadasxva
televiziebis
eTerSi dRegamoSvebiT gamojgimuli medlebiT damSvenebul policielis mundirSi
da pretenzias ayenebs, prokura gaqvT Tu sajaro biblioTekao;
gardacvalebamde
xuTi
dRiT adre Caatara bolo
preskonferencia iuri vazagaSvilma da kidev erTxel
CamoTvala im adamianebis
gvar-saxelebi,
romlebic
pirdapir Tu iribad monawileobdnen e.w `kortebis operaciaSi~, magram ra, isev igi
aafeTqes da daadumes samudamod... jer mxolod es teroristuli aqti adasturebs,
rom aRniSnuli specoperacia
marTlac winaswarganzraxuli mkvleloba iyo da pirdapir mianiSnebs savaraudo teroristebze, Tumca prokuraturam gamoZieba ssk 109-e
muxliT, ganzrax mkvleloba
damamZimebel garemoebebSi da-
iwyo...
erTi patiosani gamomZiebeli, prokurori, erTi patiosani mosamarTle da Ss saministro kaci ver iZebneba saqarTveloSi rom
`matrosovi~ amjerad
ukve samarTlianad gadaivsos `pagoniani~ patimrebiT? sainteresoa, ratom ver iZebneba, yvela erTianad gasvrilia nactalaxiT?
ver moiZebna da
swored amitom abamen
qoTans yurs saidanac
undaT naczonderebi,
nacprokurorebi, nacliderebi, zogadad, nacbandis
wevrebi da maTTan saeWvo kohabitaciaSi
eWvmitanili
calkeuli partiebis calkeuli warmomadgenlebi.
TaTuxaSvilis saeWvo gardacvalebis Semdeg rom advokatad gadaqceuli naczonderi giorgi oniani xelisuflebas daamunaTebs, is xelisufleba marTlac yvelafris
Rirsia...
ar moiZebna erTi patiosani prokurori da Ss ministri da aha, saxezea nacteroristuli samzadisi da eWvi
aravis Seeparos, rom gansazRvrul
dros
qveynis
amotrialebeSi aqtiurad CaerTvebian maTi is ukraineli
`megobrebic~, romlebic dRes
e.w `sxvagvarad moazrovne~
cia `ara nacterorizms!~ ragind farTomsaStabiani iyos
da srulad gamoxatavdes saqarTvelos mosaxleobis ganwyobas `gasamarTldes damnaSave reJimi!~ an `Sewydes
mkvlelebTan kohabitacia!~
`aikrZalos erTiani nacionaluri moZraoba!~ Caxergilia
manam, sanam sakanonmdeblo da
aRmasrulebel xelisuflebaSi Tbilad sxedan adamianebi,
romelTaTvisac
sulerTia
vin mokles da vis moklaven,
mTavaria, maT ar Seexon!
iqiT, `nacreJisori~, nagenprokurorali, ara erTi
ojaxis masxrad amgdebi, dReisaTvis `niWierebis~ ganmsazRvreli metri, nika gvaramiaa aRSfoTebuli, aqeT _
afrasiZeebis ojaxis amomJuJavi giorgi baramiZe da sruliad nacbanda, saswrafod
gamoiZieT yvela danaSaulio.
marTalia es xalxi da raoden gasaocaric unda iyos,
samarTliania amjerad maTi
moTxova, samarTliani ki ara,
usamarTlianesze usamarTlianesi! es is SemTxvevaa, rodesac xalxis moTxovna erTi
erTze emTxveva misTvis saZulveli, damnaSave, magram
dausjelad moparpaSe reJimis liderebis moTxovnas.
diax, gamoZiebuli unda
iyos yvela danaSauli, romelic xdeboda, xdeba da Tan
tyupiscaliviT hgavs erTi
meores, mesame _ meoTxes, zo-
Tanamoqalaqeebs didi enTuziazmiT xocaven...
arsad aRricxuli SeiaraRebuli bandebi isedac hyavdaT saakaSvilis reJimis konkretul pirebs, axla ki xmad
gamovida, rom saakaSvili gasamxedroebul formirebebs
ayalibebs da arsebuli xelisuflebis damxobas SeiaraRebuli gziT apirebs. rodesac
gaqceuli eqsprezidenti teleekranidan pirdapir acxadebs, arCevnebiT amaT ver movugebTo, raime moulodneli
an daujerebelia?
ramdenime arasamTavrobo
organizaciis mowyobili aq-
gadad ki, erTi mTlianis gagrZelebaa.
yvela rezonansuli Tu
mizezTa gamo ararezonansuli mkvleloba daufaravad
Cadenilia warsulSi _ saakaSvilis reJimis sisxliani
aRmasruleblebis mier, axla
ki imave reJimis narCenebis
mier. vin gamokra konkretulad sasxlets TiTi, vin visi davalebiT dado asafeTqebeli mowyobiloba da vin
visi davalebiT Seapara vinmes
sawamlavi, mtkicebulebis gareSe veravis daadeb xels,
saerTo gazeTi 19
#2 (314), 28.I, 2015 w.
magram yvela danaSaulis Camdeni rom erTi gundis sacecebi iyo, samkiTxaoa? Sesabamisad, ragind TiTs uqnevdes
vinme gaRma-gamoRmidan, Tavmoyvare xelisuflebam Tavisi
samarTliani sityva ver unda
amoRerRos, ver unda Tqvas,
rom sisxliani reJimis yvela
TvalsaCino figura, rogorc
reJimis Semoqmedi, msgavsad
faSisturi reJimisa, unda gasamarTldes?
ver ityvis da eSinodes
mSvidobis, Tu amas mSvidoba
hqvia da emzados samoqalaqo
omisTvis!
manamde ki, `nacbandis~ kidev erTma e.w liderma, daviT
baqraZem iuri vazagaSvilis
afeTqebas Svilis saflavze
Semzaravi cinizmiT Cadenili
danaSauli uwoda da ganacxada, ar maxsendeba aseTi Semzaravi cinizmiT Cadenili danaSauli saqarTveloSio.
baqraZe ra iseTi figura
iyo, rom misTvis moexenebinaT
vin da ra saxis danaSauls
sCadioda, amdenad, SeiZleba,
arc gaugia, (an gaugia kidec)
an ar axsovs, magram 2011
wels e.w `matrosovze~ sasjels ixdida irakli oqruaSvilTan daaxloebuli piri,
romelic 2007 wlis saprotesto aqciebis dros daapatimres. misi sityvebia, romelic gaxmaurebuli ar aris: _
sisxli gamiSres am damplebma... sikvdilis piras mimiyvanes, magram aRiareba ver damacdenines... imdeni ikadres,
mama momikles... eseni mTavazobdnen aRiarebiTi Cvenebis
micemas, rom viTom irakli
oqruaSvili da badri patarkaciSvili erTad apirebdnen
SeiaraRebul saxelmwifo gadatrialebas. ra Tqma unda,
ar davTanxmdi da yoveli Rame Cems sawameblad iyo, dens
mierTebdnen rom Cveneba mieRoT. mamaCemma yvelaferi icoda, `maestroze~ unda gamosuliyo da pirdapir eTerSi unda eTqva yvelaferi, magram informaciam gaJona, wina dRes,
saxlSi rom mivida da savarZelSi Cajda, afeTqda da nawilebad aikuwa... me dasakargi
aRaraferi maqvs... mama momikles, saxl-kari gamiZarcves...
dedas vutireb amaT!...~
ra Tqma unda, baqraZisTvis
cinizmi ver iqneba rodesac
patimris mamas sakuTar saxlSi, savarZelSi aafeTqeben,
magram faqtia, kaci, romelic
meore dRes televiziiT unda
gamosuliyo
da
pirdapir
eTerSi eTqva simarTle, iseve
aafeTqes, rogorc iuri vazagaSvili, romelsac aseve meore dRes televiziisTvis
mniSvnelovani mowme unda waredgina da Sesabamisad, mniSvnelovani informacia sajaro
unda gaexada.
ra Tqma unda, daviT baqraZisTvis (sruliad `nacbandisTvis~) arc is iqneba gansakuTrebuli cinizmi, rom patara bavSvs ayurebines rogor
ufaTurebdnen dedas xelebs,
rogor gauupatiures mama
(qurduli mentalobis gamosabertad) jer kiiT, Semdeg ki
samma cxovelma seqsualurad
iZalada bavSvis tirilisa da
xvewnis fonze, nu awvalebT
mamaso...
aranaklebi cinizmia, roca
`nacbandis~ kidev erTi TvalsaCino warmomadgeneli, nika
ruruac (cnobili `Jorikas~
Zma) vazagaSvilebis ojaxis
gulSematkivaris
rols
TamaSobs da mimarTulebasac
iZleva: isev gulaobs rusuli
dazverva da diversant-teroristebi saqarTveloSi, eqsperimentebs atareben eris fsiqikazeo, ase icis saxelmwifo
institutebis ngrevam da ganzrax dasustebamo da am idioturi versiis ganmtkicebaSi
xelmarjved eSveleba parlamentis Tavdacvisa da uSiSroebis komitetis Tavmjdomare
irakli sesiaSvili (`geografiulad is adgili, sadac aRniSnuli aqti moxda, saokupacio zolTan axlos aris, amitom ar aris gamoricxuli da
erT-erTi versia albaT, SesaZloa, esec iyos, rom mkvleli
saokupacio zolidan moqmedebda~) da aitaces sxvebmac.
yvela SemTxvevaSi, teroristuli aqti, romelic amjerad iuri vazagaSvilis
afeTqebiT dasrulda, arc dasawyisia da arc dasasruli im
mkvlelobebis
serialidan,
romelic 90-iani wlebidan
daiwyo saqarTveloSi gare Zalebis waxalisebiT da gagrZeldeba manam, sanam yvelas da
yvelafers Tavisi kuTvnili
saxeli ar daerqmeva!
giorgi CxeiZe
`nulovani tolerantoba~ mis oficialur
gamocxadebamde gacilebiT adre daiwyo
17 gv.
li - 1971 w.d. mcxovrebi Telavis
raionis sofel buSetSi, Caudes
xelyumbara f-1.
ivane aleqsandres Ze xanjaliaSvili - 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi Telavis raionis sofel ruispirSi, Caudes `abrezi~.
jabrail avTandilis Ze
maCalikaSvili - 1972 w.d.
mcxovrebi axmetis raionis sofel
duisSi, Caudes 0,7 grami `heroini~.
omar zaurbegis Ze ciskariSvili - 1961 w.d. mcxovrebi
axmetis raionis sofel joyoloSi,
Caudes 0,5 grami `heroini~.
mamuka xvTisos Ze qerauli – mcxovrebi dedofliswyaros
raionis sofel wiTelwyaroSi, Caudes 0.7 grami `heroini~.
16 seqtemberi
avTandil givis Ze jandieri - 1979 w.d. mcxovrebi TelavSi, erekle mefis quCaze, Caudes
xelyumbara f-1.
besarion ilias Ze burnaZe - 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi TelavSi,
evdoSvilis quCaze, romelic aseve
Cadebuli `nivTmtkicebiT~ daiWires.
daviT uSangis Ze aladaSvili - 1969 w.d. mcxovrebi siRnaRis raionis sofel jugaanSi, Caudes xelyumbara f-1 da 18,8 grami
`marixuana~.
Salva aleqsandres Ze beJaniSvili - 1985 w.d. mcxovrebi
siRnaRis raionis daba wnorSi, Caudes xelyumbara f-1 da 14,5 grami
`marixuana~.
giorgi aleqsandres Ze
beJaniSvili - 1970 w.d. mcxovrebi daba wnorSi, Caudes `abrezi~.
daviT CalaZe – arc mis Sesaxeb fiqsirdeba sxva informacia.
revaz giorgis Ze kenWoSvili - 1952 w.d. mcxovrebi yvarlis raionis sofel eniselSi, Caudes `abrezi~.
xsenebuli
cecxlsasroli
iaraRebi, didi albaTobiT tabeluri iaraRia. daviT gagniZis informaciiT, avtomatebi Casadebad
Ss maSindeli ministris
brZanebiT, Sinagani jarebis sardalma gadasca
(Sss-s centraluri aparatis erT-erTi maRalCinosnis
kabinetSi),
kriminaluri policiis
mTavari sammarTvelos
xelmZRvanelobas.
ar
aris gamoricxuli es
Cadebul-amoRebuli avtomatebi sxva `specoperaciebis~ drosac iyos
gamoyenebuli, amitomac
vuTiTebT maT nomrebs,
rom iqneb romelime sxva
`Cadebulmac~ amoicnos. `saerTo
gazeTis~ informaciiT, Sinagan
jarebs maSin mixeil saakaSvilis
`lubimCiki~, generali gogi TaTuxaSvili xelmZRvanelobda.
daviT gagniZe: `xsenebuli iaraRi kriminaluri policiis mTavari sammarTvelos ufrosis erT-erTi moadgilis kabinetTan arsebul e.w. dasavenebel
oTaxSi ewyo (savaraudod es moadgile SemdegSi kargad cnobili
irakli qadagiZe gaxldaT – m.s.)
da saministros krimpoliciis
warmomadgenlebs `specoperaciebze~gasvlis win urigebdnen. e.w.
kriminalebis siebi raionuli policiebis ufrosebma Seadgines
da samxareo policiis mTavari
sammarTveloebis xelmZRvanelebs
gadasces, romlebmac Tavis mxriv
Ss ministr giorgi baramiZes warudgines. uSualod am `specope-
raciebis~ ganxorcielebisas SeiZleba baramiZe aRar ikavebda Ss
ministris posts, magram ramdenadac vici, yvelaferi misi ministrobisas daigegma da momzadda.
xsenebul siebSi visi gvari moxvda, swored es aris sakiTxavi,
zogierT maTgans SeiZleba marTlac hqonda Sexeba damnaSaveTa
samyarosTan, magram bevri sruliad udanaSaulo adamiani piradi interesebidan gamomdinare
moiciles. es adamianebi ubralod avtoritetuli, pativsacemi xalxi iyo Tavis qalaqSi, sofelsa Tu ubanSi, nacionalebs
ki mogexsenebaT, rogor `uyvardaT~ amgvari niSnis matarebeli
pirovnebebi. sxvaTa Soris, im periodSi arc bevr imaTgans hqonda danaSauli Cadenili, romlebic damnaSaveTa samyaros warmomadgenlebad iTvlebodnen. vimeoreb, avtomatebis Cadeba, rogorc
wesi Sss centraluri aparatis
TanamSromlebis mier xdeboda,
e.w. mowmeebic maT mierve iyvnen
wardgenilni. xsenebul TanamSromlebs pirdapir avalebdnen
mowmeebis moZebnas da saWiroebis
SemTxvevaSi gamoyenebas. samegreloSi ganxorcielebuli `specoperaciebis~ dros mowmeebi Tbilisidan waiyvanes, romlebsac
`gasamrjelos~ saxiT 50 lars
uxdidnen. es xalxi operaciaSi
monawile policielebis naTesavmegobrebi iyvnen, romlebic organizebulad, gamTeniisas miyavdaT `ikarusis~ markis avtobusiT.
es iyo masobrivi daWerebis
kampania, romliTac axalma xelisuflebam policiis Zveli, gamocdili kadrebi ase vTqvaT, daSoka. aRniSnuli SeTanxmebuli
gaxldaT maSindel genprokurorTan da sasamarTlos xelmZRvanelobasTan, amitom Civils azri
ar hqonda, piriqiT, momCivani
sasjelis maqsimums miiRebda. Cemi informaciiT, oRond es mog-
vianebiT gavige, Sekrebilebi iyvnen prokuraturis, Sss-s da sasamarTlos Zalze maRali rangis
Cinosnebi da swored am Sekrebaze gadawyda, xsenebuli `specoperaciebis~ Catareba. cxadia, maTac viRacam daavala, damvaleblis vinaobaa gasarkvevi da es
pirvel rigSi baramiZem unda
Tqvas, radgan yvelaze xSirad is
adanaSaulebs dRevandel samarTaldamcavebs iaraRisa Tu narkotikebis CadebaSi. sxvaTa Soris, xsenebuli RonisZiebebisas
Cadebis mxriv, Tavi gansakuTrebiT kaxeTis samxareo policiis
mTavarma sammarTvelom gamoiCina
(im periodSi xsenebul sammarTvelos Sss-s Zveli kadri Temur
anjafariZe
xelmZRvanelobda,
romelic Turme `vardosnebis~
didi ndobiT sargeblobda –
m.s.). maT raionis policiis uf-
rosebi aiZules, sakuTari ZalebiT moexdinaT xalxis daWera.
swored amitomaa, rom avtomatebi bevri ar CaudiaT, iq e.w. damnaSaveebs kanoniT akrZaluli
ufro wvrilmani nivTebi da nivTierebebi Caudes. amis safasurad
kaxeTis samxareo policiis maSindelma xelmZRvanelobam seriozuli dividendebi miiRo, Tumca Zveli kadrebi sakmaod gaunawyendnen~.
- batono daviT, ase darwmu nebiT rom acxadebT, xsenebul
pirebs nivTmtkicebebi Caudeso,
amis Tqmis safuZvels ra garemo eba gaZlevT?
- yuradReba miaqcieT maTi dakavebis da `nivTmtkicebebis~ amoRebis TariRebs. aseTi damTxvevebi SemTxveviT ar xdeba, aseTi
operaciebis ase uceb da erTad
Catarebis Sansi ar arsebobs. es
yvelaferi TviTonve yviris, rom
yvelaferi ise ar aris, rogorc
sazogadoebas SeasaRes. rogor
SeiZleba 2-3 dReSi aTeulobiT
avtomati amoiRo, aseTi ram 90iani wlebis dasawyisSi, SoTa
kviraias Ss ministrobis drosac
ar momxdara, roca masobrivad
tardeboda specreidebi iaraRis
amosaRebad. arada mogexsenebaT,
maSin TiTqmis mTeli saqarTvelo
SeiaraRebuli iyo. profesionali
samarTaldamcavisTvis maSinve aSkara iyo, yvelaferi TeTri ZafiT
iyo nakeri. erTsac getyviT, es
`Cadebebi~ policiis Zvel kadrebs ar ganuxorcielebiaT, radgan Sss-s xelmZRvaneloba maT ar
endoboda, es `sapatio misia~ maT
mier moyvanilma axalma kadrebma
ganaxorcieles. Zveli, gamocdili kadrebi ubralod faqtis winaSe dagvayenes, `amoRebul~
mtkicebulebebis Cvenebas vgulisxmob, im specoperaciebisas iq
uamravi xalxi trialebda, amitom Znelia imis garkveva, marTlac amoRebuli iyo Tu CadebulamoRebuli. TbilisSi pirvelad
roca Catarda amoRebis operacia, mec wamiyvanes, rogorc organizebuli danaSaulis winaaRmdeg mebrZoli samsaxuris warmomadgeneli, magram,
rodesac ukmayofileba
gamovTqvi saeWvo garemoebebTan dakavSirebiT, mas mere arcerT
RonisZiebaze aRar wavuyvanivarT. es saqmeebi rom Sekerili iyo,
mowmeebis ambavi xdis
yvelaze kargad fardas, ranairad SeiZleba samegreloSi Tbiliselebi yofiliyvnen
mowmed, Tan ar dagaviwydeT, es
e.w. mowmeebi samegrelos garda
sxva saqmeebSic figurireben, es
rogor avxsnaT? zemoxsenebuli
dakavebulTa sia oficialuri
wyarodan maqvs mopovebuli, kerZod, xom vicodi sad midioda
operatiuli jgufi e.w. specoperaciis Casatareblad, meore
dRes gadavaTvalierebdi Sss-s
sadReRamiso informacias, e.w.
krebss, sadac miTiTebuli iyo
vin daakaves da ra raodenobis
cecxlsasroli iaraRi Tu sxva
mtkicebuleba amouRes, Tavisi
sruli monacemebiT, aqedan gamomdinare, arafers vigoneb, dainteresebis SemTxvevaSi yvelaferi
martivi gadasamowmebelia.
manana suxiSvili
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20 saerTo gazeTi
#2 (314), 28.I, 2015 w.
gvesaaubrebaa `gaaerTiaanebuli demokraatiuli moZraaobis~ politikuri mdivaani, baatoni gigla baramiZe.
_ batono gigla, usamarTlod daxvretili zurab vazagaSvilis mama, batoni iuri
vazagaSvili davasaflaveT.
sazogadoeba jer kidev gaurkvevlobaSia. ra xdeba Cvens
qveyanaSi?
_ upirveles yovlisa, visargebleb Tqveni gazeTiT da
Cveni politikuri gaerTianebis saxeliT mivusamZimreb
iuri vazagaSvilis ojaxs. saSineli ram moxda: gaognebuli varT. rogorc `daTa TuTaSxiaSia~ _ es ram moafiqrebinaT?!
saqme jer ar gamoZiebula,
magram, roca saxelisuflebo
institutebi sustia, imedi
naklebadaa, rom gaixsneba es
saqme.
sanam Ss ministri gadadgeboda, manamde vambobdi, rom
pasuxi unda egoT maRali Tanamdebobis pirebs, Tuki ar
icodnen, rom aseTi ram mzaddeboda. es ar iyo SemTxveviTi mkvleloba. es iyo teroristuli aqti.
dRes ki vafrTxileb xelisuflebas: vazagaSvilis
saqmis SesaZlo gaWianurebidan an gauxsnelobidan erTi
nabijiRaa darCenili xelisuflebis daqcevamde. es gaiTvaliswinon!
es aris zRvari, romlis
Semdegac seriozuli areuloba SeiZleba daiwyos.
amas winaT eka beseliam
Tqva: Cemi Svili vinac daiWira, is xalxi axlac Tanamdebobebze ariano. eka beselia
rom amas ityvis, Cven raRa
unda vifiqroT?!
sabotaJis
mcdelobaao,
dauCemebiaT. sabotaJis mcdeloba Tu aris, imitom xar
xelisufleba, rom aRkveTo
unda es sabotaJi.
amitom, sanam uaresi krizisi Seqmnila, aucilebelia
vadamdeli saparlamento arCevnebi.
_ Tqvens am mosazrebas
xom ar ukavSirdeba bolo
dReebSi gaxSirebuli miTqmamoTqma biZina ivaniSvilisa da
nino burjanaZis mosalodneli aliansis Sesaxeb? pirdapir gkiTxavT _Sedga es Sexvedra?
Tqven ra gaZlevT am gancxadebis gakeTebis saSualebas?
_ Teoriulad, Sinaganad
da politikuri ganwyobiT,
koalicia `qarTuli ocneba~
erTiani arasdros yofila,
dRemde ar daSlilan ara imitom, rom erTmaneTze mze da
mTvare amosdiT, aramed imitom, rom eSiniaT, xelmeored
veRar Sevlen parlamentSi.
Tuki naxes, rom nacionalebma raRac dasayrdeni ipoves,
SeiZleba iq gadabargdnen. mosalodnelia, nacionalebTan
saerTo ena gamonaxon `Tavisufalma
demokratebma~,
`respublikelebis~ nawilma.
me ver vityvi, rodis daiSleba koalicia, magram SigniT, zogierTi politikuri
gaerTianebis survili rom
aris gaTavisufldnen `qarTuli ocnebis~ koaaliciisgan, es vici.
ianvarSi `ocnebis~ liderTan kuluaruli Sexvedra
rom iyo, iqedanac gamovida
xmebi, rom `daniis samefoSi~
yvelaferi wesrigSi ar aris.
erTi sityviT, `qarTuli
ocnebis~ mTeli es akido aki-
ca teritoriebi, rusuli
kompaniebi Semoiyvana qveyanaSi. merabiSvili ar iyo, rusul kapitals suni ar asdiso, rom Tqva parlamentSi?
Cven vambobT, rom ruseTTan
aucilebelia kargi urTierToba da yvela dasavleli
partnioric amas gvirCevs.
amas winaT erTi qveynis
elCTan mqonda Sexvedra. gaocebulia adamiani: niWieri
xalxi xarT, magram aseTi
sibriyve ratom gWirT _ daanebeT Tavi gaurkveveli gancxadebebis keTebas. rogor
wydeba Tqveni bedi ukrainaSi,
Tqvens Tavs mixedeT, sad
eCxirebiT, sadac Tqveni adgili araa?! mesame fronts ratom xsniTo?!
Cven ukrainaSi rusebs ar
vebrZviT. gaigos es yvelam.
iq saakaSvili Tavis rekrutebs amzadebs axali maidani
rom moawyos saqarTveloSi.
sircxvilia demagogiuri
ganxadebebi _ ukrainaSi rom
daiRupeba, is jariskaci gmiria da saqarTveloSi rom
tragikulad moklaven _ Rori mama-Svili mokvdao.
diax, ukrainaSi ar wydeba
Cveni bedi.
ukraina iyos kargad, magram Cveni bediswera aris saqarTvelo da mivxedoT saqarTvelos.
miSa axla samarcxvino
gancxadebebs akeTebs _ datoveT Tavdacvis saministro da
aq CamodiT, ukrainaSi iomeTo, mouwodebs mebrZolebs.
Tavisi Svili waiyvanos, amerikaSi yvelaze ZviradRirebul saswavlebelSi rom as-
debulia erTi kacis zurgze
da es aris biZina ivaniSvili.
_ roca Tqvens partias da
liders mkveTrad gamoxatuli rusuli orientacia aqvs,
rogor apirebT Tqveni politikuri miznebis ganxorcielebas im fonze, roca saqarTveloSi partiaTa umravlesoba qveynis dasavlur kurss
uWers mxars?
_ Tuki qalbatoni ninos
Sexvedra vladimer putinTan aris iarliyi, es
arasworia. biZina ivaniSvilma
kapitali ruseTSi daagrova.
batoni biZina maSin ruseTis
momxre yofila, Tuki vinmem
ruseTis orsaukunovani Canafiqri aasrula, es iyo miSa
da `nacmoZraoba~ _ gadaulo-
wavlis. Tavisi eduCa, SevardnaZis saxeli rom daarqva,
is waiyvanos wina xazze.
`nacmoZraobis~ liderebs
sxvebsac hyavT biWebi, brZola rom SeuZliaT. Tu saqarTvelos moyvarulebi arian,
rogorc amboben, daaWerinon
avtomatebi Svilebs da aomon
ukrainaSi. gaiRon msxverpli
_ daanebebinon Tavi eduard
saakaSvils swavlaze da saqarTvelosTvis iomos ukrainaSi. sxvisi Svilebis daRvril sisxlsac TviTon rom
iweren da viTom patriotobas da kacobas rom TamaSoben, es gamyidvelebi, es kacunebi, eseni.
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gigla baramiZe:
diax, erTxel hqonda
Sexvedra nino burjanaZes
biZina ivaniSvilTan
_ es miTqma-moTqma, albaT,
imis gamo gaCnda, Cveni partiis wevrebi rom xelisuflebaSi maRal Tanamdebobebze
dainiSnen _ es adamianebi
`qarTul ocnebaSi~ mas Semdeg wavidnen, rac Cveni partiis rigebi datoves.
dRes `qarTul ocnebasa~
da `gaerTianebul demokratiul moZraobas~ Soris araviTari molaparakebebi ar mimdinareobs. metic, aseTi saubrebi arc gvqonia. uaxloes
xanebSi msgavsi Sexvedrebi
arc igegmeba.
erTaderTxel hqonda Sexvedra Cveni partiis pirvel
pirs baton biZina ivaniSvilTan 2012 wlis arCevnebamde,
roca mxari davuWireT `ocnebas~ da ar miviReT monawileoba arCevnebSi, oRond is
Savi Wiri mogveSorebina. mas
Semdeg Cven satelefono kontaqtic ki ar gvqonia.
Tqvens mier gamoTqmuli
eWvebi ki, albaT, kidev ufro
gaamyara iman, rom Cveni politikuri sabWos wevris gi-
orgi kobaxiZis
vaJi,
irakli `qarTuli ocnebis~
aRmasrulebel mdivnad dainiSna.
giorgi kobaxiZem maSinve
uari ganacxada partiis wevrobaze, rac misma Svilma es
nabiji gadadga.
es kidev erTxel miuTiTebs imaze, rom Cveni partia
medroveebiT ar aris daqompleqtebuli.
_ Tqven vadamdeli saparlamento arCevnebi axseneT.
ras fiqrobT, saparlamento
arCevnebi maleve rom gaimarTos, ra politikuri ZalebiT dakompleqtdeba momavali
sakanonmdeblo organo?
sul erTi da igive xalxi
xarT. ra azri aqvs arCevnebs?
_ ki, batono, gasagebia
pretenziebi, magram Seiqmnas
axali partiebi, ukeTesi
xalxi movides. visac ar
movwonvarT, nu agvirCevs.
kacma rom Tqvas, arc is
aris kargi, am xelisuflebaSi zogierTi pirdapir
`quCidan~ rom moiyvanes.
zogierTs biografiac ar
aqvs da ra saqme unda gaakeTos.
SevardnaZis periodSi Zalian bevrma uzarmazari
simdidre daagrova. iyvnen
iseTebic, romlebmac cdunebebs gauZles da aravisTvis
araferi wauglejiaT. aseT
adamianebs, mgoni, unda mivceT
sajaro samsaxurSi an politikaSi moRvaweobis SesaZlebloba.
_ koaliciaze TqviT, is
ukve im donezea, mosalodnelia, daiSaloso. koaliciis
wevrebi ase ar fiqroben.
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gvesaubreba
kavkasiel
xalxTa konfederaciis prezidenti, politologi, batoni zaal kasreliSvili..
_ ruseTis dumaSi dRes
(23.01.15) afxazeTsa da ruseTis federacias Soris
urTierTmxardaWeris xel Sekrulebas moewera xeli.
rogor SeafasebT am movle nas?
_ ruseTma ukve oficialurad gaaforma is Sedegi,
rasac miaRwia kavkasiaSi da
konkretulad saqarTveloSi
1994 wels. axla afxazeTTan, rogorc iuridiul
pirTan moaxdina konfederaciul sawyisebze Tavdacvisa
da
ekonomikis
sferoSi
usafrTxoebis xelSekrulebis ratificireba.
ruseTi afxazeTs, rogorc damoukidebel iuridiul subieqts, ise ganixilavs, rac niSnavs, rom dReis Semdeg nebismieri qmedeba
saqarTvelos xelisuflebis,
an saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis mxridan, afxazeTis teritoriaze iqneba ruseTis
saqme _ Tu ginda afxazeTTan kontaqti gqondes, urTierToba unda daamyaro ruseTis xelmZRvanelobasTan,
Tu ginda omi afxazebTan,
unda iomo ruseTTan, yovelgvari ekonomikuri an politikuri aqtivobis survili
da mcdeloba afxazeTis teritoriaze dasawyisSive un-
da SeaTanxmo ruseTTan.
_ kavkasiaSi romelime
respublikasTan aseTi xelSekruleba ruseTs aqvs?
_ ar aqvs.
ruseTs somxeTTan aqvs
strategiuli partniorobisa da TanamSromlobis xelSekruleba. somxeTi am xelSekrulebis
safuZvelze
gaxda evraziuli kavSiris
wevri.
_ anu mosalodnelia,
rom afxazeTic Sevides ev raziis kavSirSi?
_ vfiqrob, ki.
_ garkveuli xnis win
afxazebma da e. i. rusebma
engurhesis kuTvnilebis Sesaxeb gamoTqves pretenzia.
_ am xelSekrulebis
xelmoweris Semdeg sruli
ufleba aqvs ruseTs dajdes
afxazebsa da qarTvelebs
Soris molaparakebis magidasTan. amitom vambobT, roca afxazebi acxadeben, molaparakebebi daviwyoT engurhesis Temazeo.
_ engurhesis
garda `raoesi~
da
sxva
sa sicocxlod
mniSvnelovani
strategiuli
obieqtebi ukve
aris
ruseTis
xelSi...
_ diax,
kuri gaTvlebi unda SeimuSavos xelisuflebam.
emociis doneze ar unda
gadavwyvitoT sakiTxebi.
mimaCnia, rom yulevis
navTobterminalis gayidvac
didi Secdoma iyo.
marTalia,
is
Cvenma strategiulma partniorma azerbaijanma iyida,
magram
Cveni
qoneba
Cvens
gankargulebaSi
unda iyos.
goT, rogor uyurebs ruseTsaqarTvelos momaval urTierTobebs.
_ rusul-u
ukrainuli urTierTobebi axseneT da barem
aqve SegekiTxebiT. roca rusul-u
ukrainul molaparakebebze saubrobT, migaCniaT,
rom dRes ukrainas ukrainuli erovnuli Zalebi warmoadgenen?
amboben, sakadro politikas ukrainaSi eqsprezidenti
saakaSvili warmarTavso.
_ rac Seexeba saakaSvils da misi mTavrobis iq
gadabargebas, es niSnavs
imas, rom saqarTveloSi mobrunebis imedi ar aqvT. is
interesjgufi, romlebic
_ vin gauwia nacebs re komendacia ukrainis xelisuflebaSi?
_ eseni, savaraudod, nacionalebis dasavleli da
amerikeli patronebi iqvnen.
miSas surda statusi da
dRes is aqvs. manamde is ustatuso gaxldaT.
aqve unda vTqva, nacionalebma 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi
saqarTveloSi daamtkices,
rom araqarTuli, arakavkasiuri, aratradiciuli mentalobis arian da rogorc
1917 wlis qarTveli wiTeli bolSevikebi akvirvebdnen
ruseTs TavianTi Tanamemamuleebis mimarT gamoCenili
sisastikiT, ase awonebdnen
da awoneben dResac Tavs TavianT dasavlel patronebs.
zaal kasreliSvili:
im qarTvel musulmanebs,
romlebic danarCen qarTvelebs
daCoqebiT emuqrebian, CavalT
da iq davaCoqebT, sadac arian...
da amaze pasuxi unda moeTxovos saakaSvils da
mis biZas _ Temur alasanias, romlebmac saqarTveloSi energetika da sxva
mniSvnelovani obieqtebi rusebs Caugdes xelSi.
_ aqve ar SemiZlia ar
gkiTxoT am bolo dReebSi
foTis
navTobterminalis
`rostneftze~ gayidvis faq tis Sesaxebac.
_ foTis navTobterminali mixeil saakaSvilis
finansurma menejerma, vinme
kezeraSvilma, romelmac
miSasTan erTad gayida saqarTvelos teritoriebi da
gaiqca, Seisyida es obieqti
da Semdeg, TiTqos kezeraSvilebis sakuTreba iyos es
qveyana, mihyida biznesmen
iakobaSvils. iakobaSvilma Tavis kuTvnil navTobterminalSi 90% `rosnefts~ gadasca.
ra Tqma unda, arasasiamovno ambavia, magram mougvarebeli problema araa. situaciis gamosworeba SeiZleba, oRond axali ekonomi-
erTi sityviT, seriozuli da sando partniorebi
unda veZeboT.
_ `rosnefti~ seriozu li kompania araa?
_ rogor ara, magram is
gaxlavT sanqciebis qveS.
Tumca dadebiTi mxarec arsebobs. sanam ruseTi sanqciebis zewolas ganicdis, Cven
misTvis varT erTgvari fanjara evropisken, saidanac,
ase vTqvaT, sufTa haers
sunTqaven.
amitom Zalian bevr Temaze SeiZleba ruseTs esaubro, Tuki Cveni xelisufleba mzadaa da hyofnis kompetencia da profesionalizmi
ruseTTan ekonomikur sakiTxebze sasaubrod.
putinTan Sexvedra unda
Sedges, oRond saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis interesebis Sesabamisad.
rogorc
mimdinareobs
rusul-ukrainuli molaparakebebi saerTaSoriso sazogadoebis CareviT, ase unda moxdes CvenTanac.
Cveni mizania, ruseTis
prezidentis bageebidan gavi-
saakaSvilis xelisuflebas
exmareboda 9 weliwadi qarTveli xalxis damonebaSi,
axla ukrainisken aris gadarTuli da me sityvas
gaZlevT, uaxloes 6 TveSi, 2015 wlis Semodgomamde saakaSvils
da misi gundis wevrebs ukrainis xelmZRvanelobasTan da
politikur wreebTan
seriozuli
uTanxmoeba daewyebaT. saqme isaa, rom nacionalebi TavianTi moqmedebebiT ukrainaSi xel-fexs
uxsnian agresiisTvis ruseTis
specsamsaxurebs.
ruseTis
politikurma
xelmZRvanelobam nacebis
aqtiuroba ukrainaSi Sida
politikuri bazrisTvis gankuTvnilad CaTvala da gare
Zalebsac eubnebian: ukrainis
xelisuflebaSi movidnen is
qarTvelebi, romlebmac sisxli Rvares cxinvalSi da
saerTod, saqarTveloSio. es
seriozuli savaWro sakiTxia ucxoelebTan saubrisas.
amitom arian isini neobolSevikebi.
_ am situaciaSi sxvadasxva islamur jgufebSi mebrZoli qarTveli musulmanebi danarCeni qarTvelebis
daCoqebiT imuqrebian. ras
gverCian?
_ Cven ukve SevuTvaleT
da kidev veubnebiT: sadac
arian, iq CavalT da iq davaCoqebT da mag muqarebisTvis
seriozulad vagebinebT pasuxs.
osmaleTma, sparseTma,
bizantiam, romma, sabWoTa
kavSirma ver dagvaCoqa:
ki, gagvanadgures, dagvasustes, magram ver dagvaCoqes da eseni vin arian?
vinc am gancxadebebs
akeTebs, an ruseTis specsamsaxurebis davalebebs
asrulebs, an TurqeTisas.
verc erTis da verc meoris interesi saqarTveloSi ver gaixarebs. es
minda icodnen kargad.
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kohabitacia universitetSi, anu
Catardeba Tu ara sakadro auditi
mTavar umaRles saswavlebelSi?
vesaubrebiT saqarTvelos
mecnier qalTa asociaciis
xelmZRvanels, iv.javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo
universitetis
akademiuri ganviTarebisa da
uwyveti ganaTlebis centris
ufros specialists, qalbaton avelina daviTulians.
_ qalbatono avelina,
ramdenime Tvea, Tqven kvlav
universitetSi dabrundiT
samuSaod, manamde mTeli 35
weli moRvaweobdiT aq fizikis fakultetze, universitetis reqtors, baton lado
papavas didi Zalisxmeva dasWirda imisTvis, rom `Carecxili~ profesorebidan da
TanamSromlebidan ramdenimes
mainc SesZleboda da mieRo
monawileoba garkveul konkursebSi. rogorc cnobilia,
dRes `xubuas klani~ da nacionalebi seriozulad ibrZvian imisTvis, rom Tqvennairma gamocdilma specialistebma uari Tqvan samuSaoze.
faqtobrivad, maT daiwyes
Ria brZola damsaxurebuli
specialistebis mimarT, es
zadeba saWiroa yvela universitetSi. swored amisTvis
Seiqmna es centri 2009
wels Tbilisis saxelmwifo
universitetSi.
albaT,
ikiTxavT, ra keTdeba dRes
aq? _ araferi! ratom? imitom, rom ar surs mis xelmZRvanels _ qeTevan cincaZes.
manamde am centris ufrosi
iyo eTer Rvineria, Zalian
ganaTlebuli da kargi specialisti. xubuam mas es ganyofileba dauxura, ratom?
aravin icis, mizezi ar uTqvamT. Semdeg aRadgines es
ganyofileba da piaris samsaxuridan gadmoiyvanes qeTevan
cincaZe mis xelmZRvanelad.
piradi SexedulebiT man am
centridan bevri TanamSromeli gauSva. axla me damipirispirda. ratom? meubneba,
rom ar vasruleb mis davalebebs.
_ fiqrobT, rom is ver
asrulebs masze dakisrebul
movaleobas?
_ vfiqrob ki ara, asea,
vuTxari, rom momeciT-meTqi
erT-erTi programaa `tempusi~ _ am programis finansuri xarjebis damadasturebeli cnobebi, ar maCvena.
lado papava
`brZola~, garkveulwilad,
Tqvenc SegexoT, ratom?
_ mTeli cxovreba universitetSi gavatare, moqmedi
mecnieri var, bolo xuT TveSi oTxi samecniero statia
davwere. erTi amerikelebis,
xolo meore kanadis SekveTiT. aseve guldasmiT vmuSaob am uwyveti ganaTlebis
centrSi, romelic Zalian
mniSvnelovan rgols warmoadgens universitetisTvis,
axali paradigmaa, da saerTod, damatebiTi ganaTleba
dRes ukve aucilebelia Tanamedrove msoflioSi imitom,
rom Zalian swrafad icvleba
movlenebi, yovel sam weliwadSi specialistebis gadam-
_ qalbatono avelina, am
centrs aqvs gamoyofili seriozuli Tanxebi, raSi unda
ixarjebodes igi da raSi
ixarjeba is dRes aq?
_ uwyveti ganaTlebis
centris mTavari da nomer
pirveli mizani aris ganaTlebis xarisxis amaRleba,
asea mTel msoflioSi. am
ganyofilebaSi dRes msgavsi
araferi xdeba. jer kidev
lomaias reformebis dros
ganaTlebis sistema rogor
daingra, iciT, Semdeg profesura rogor `Carecxes~, yvelas moexseneba, dRes ukve,
revanSizmi ar dagvwamono da
kohabitacia SemogvTavazes,
ucodinar xubuas kadrebisa
da namdvili specialistebis
erTad muSaoba, es SesaZlebelia? es normaluria?
Zalian cdilobs batoni
lado papava, rom Zveli da
kargi specialistebi dabrundnen universitetSi, magram
visTan erTad mogviwevs muSaoba, iciT? eseni xom `Seuxeblobis kastas~ warmoadgenen, maT ver exebian.
_ Tqveni konfliqti cincaZesTan riTi damTavrda, an,
saerTod, Tu damTavrda?
_ ocdaTxuTmeti weli
universitetSi Rirseulad
gavatare, Cemi meuRle Tengiz
sanaZe _saerTaSoriso donis
mecnieri iyo, akademikosi,
uRirs adamianebTan kamaTi
namdvilad ar mekadreba, amitom werilobiT mivmarTe baton lado papavas, romelmac
es saqme pirad kontrolze
aiyvana. saerTod, mimaCnia,
rom universitetSi unda Catardes aucileblad sakadro
auditi, gairkves, vin aswavlis dRes studentebs, an
ras aswavlian? ratom gvyavs
amdeni ucodinari studenti?
amaze pasuxi unda gaices.
adre, xubuas reqtorobis
dros, kaliforniis universitetidan miiRo Txovna
Cvenma universitetma, sadac
iTxovdnen, rom aTi studenti gagvizardeTo fizikis mimarTulebiT, radganac Zalian
STambeWdavi Sedegebi gaqvT
am mimarTulebiTo da, iciT,
ra pasuxi gasca maSin xubuam? _ am aT students ver
gavzrdiT imitom, rom Cvens
universitetSi ganaTlebis
reforma Catarda da is profesor-maswavleblebi aq aRar
muSaobeno.
_ minda gkiTxoT, xubua
universitetSi srul profesorad airCies, magram dRes
aq aRar muSaobs, ratom?
_ imitom, rom xalxma ar
gaaCera, gaaZeves, ver dadioda. gaxsovT, albaT, profesorebi klubSi rom Caketa
da wyali da haeri gadauketa, mis am saqciels xelisuflebam Sefaseba dRemde
ratom ar misca? nuTu moraluria is, rom aseTi daundobeli da uzneo adamiani
kiTxulobda Semdeg am universitetSi samarTlis eTikas? ramdeni milionis dafinanseba miiRo ivaniSvilisgan
universitetma remontisTvis,
SediT axla meore korpusSi
da naxeT, ra aris iq garemontebuli? sad wavida es Tanxebi? ratom iyo am korpusSi farTebi gaqiravebuli
arasauniversiteto daniSnulebis dawesebulebebze im
dros, roca studentebs
auditoriebi ar hyofniT? Cemi azriT, swavlis xarisxis
uzrunvelyofa unda moxdes
sakadro auditiT. gulwrfelad getyviT, rom dResac
universitetSi bevri Rirseuli adamiani moRvaweobs,
yvelas ar vexebi da arc revanSistuli grZnobebi ar mamoZravebs, sakadro auditis
praqtika aseT SemTxvevebSi
gamoiyeneba bevr qveyanaSi,
amitom Cvens universitetSi
misi Catareba aucilebelia.
aseve pedagogiuri personali
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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ze
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kvalifikacias mudmivad unda
imaRlebdes. dRes es centri,
sadac me vmuSaob da romelsac es ssaqme evaleba _ arafers ar akeTebs.
_ cnobilia, rom bolo
wlebSi magistraturaSi CambarebelTa ricxvi sagrZnoblad Semcirda, xom ar gamoiwvia es yovelive arakvalificiuri maswavleblebis Tavmoyram umaRles saswavleblebSi?
_ magistraturis damTavreba kargi specialistisTvis
aucilebel pirobas warmoadgens mTel msoflioSi da ara
marto CvenTan. perspeqtiva
sxvanairad ar eqneba students, magram ra qnan, Tu maT
swavlebis done ar akmayofilebT? an unda wavidnen
ucxoeTSi, visac saSualeba
aqvs, an sul ar Caabaros magistraturaSi, mainc arafers iswavlis _ ai, es gaxlavT im reformebis Sedegi,
romelsac dRes vimkiT.
_ ratom dasWirda baton
lado papavas preskonferenciis Catareba da ganmarteba
imisTvis, rom imuSavebdnen
da dabrundebodnen Tu ara
universitetSi profesorebi
_ vaJa lorTqifaniZe, aliko
kartozia da avTo silagaZem
vin iyo amis winaaRmdegi?
_ xubuas klani rasakvirvelia, Tumca, maT es yvelaferi ise `monaTles~, TiTqos
sazogadoeba iyo amis winaaRmdegi, es xom absurdia.
P.S. rodesac werils vamzadebdi, am periodSi gairkva, rom gia xubuam germanel
mecnierebTan erTad konferenciis Catareba iTxova saqarTvelos mecnierebaTa akademiaSi, rasac daupirispirda mecnierTa garkveuli
jgufi da mas amis neba ar
misces.
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_ SeiZleba Tu ara pirobiTi msjavris vadaze adre
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_ SeiZleba.
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1-li nawilis mixedviT, Tu pirobiTi msjavrdebuli gamosacdeli vadis aranakleb naxevris
gasvlis Semdeg yofaqceviT daamtkicebs Tavis gamosworebas,
saqarTvelos sasjelaRsrulebis, probaciisa da iuridiuli
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moqmedi sajaro samarTlis
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pirobiTi msjavris gauqmebis
sakiTxTa ganmxilveli mudmivmoqmedi komisia msjavrdebulis
mimarT kontrolisa da daxmarebis ganmaxorcielebeli organos Suamdgomlobis safuZvelze iRebs gadawyvetilebas
pirobiTi msjavrdebulisaTvis
pirobiTi msjavris gauqmebisa
da nasamarTlobis moxsnis Sesaxeb.
amave muxlis 1-prima nawilis mixedviT, pirobiT msjavrdebulisaTvis am muxlis
pirveli nawiliT dadgenili
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wveulebebze ityviT uars.
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merwyuli _ es periodi
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amave nomris skanvordis pasuxebi:
skanvordi
1.burbuSela. 2. bJeni. 3. Jileti. 4. nepi. 5. ursusi. 6. glintveini. 7. groso. 8.
lapi. 9. palaco. 10. Stutgarti. 11 valeti.
12. kamelini. 13. fleSi. 14. moda. 15. elza.
16. Sabloni. 17. koSki. 18. po. 19. asteroidi. 20. importiori. 21. isaak. 22. difuzia.
23. kikeri. 24. fideri. 25. polinezia. 26.
jori. 27. bzoba. 28. CimiSkiani. 29. Cikori.
30. reisi. 31. sairme. 32. ialkiali. 33. aCi ko. 34. kaiaki. 35. serengeiti. 36. kaskadi. 37.
gangaSi. 38. Tesaloniki. 39. ganTiadi. 40.
fule. 41. lifonava. 42. albaneTi. 43. blan ka. 44. seiSeni. 45. file. 46. iaraRi. 46a.
fo. 47. gorio. 48. rikuli. 49. nolti. 50.
aerofobia. 51. peroni. 52. inauri. 53. pioneri. 54. naTia. 55. goran. 56. skifi. 57. qoSini. 58. tiki. 59. satrapi. 60. bia. 61. rovno.
62. luqi. 63. qula. 64. arka. 65. iori. 66.
Svi. 67. ateni. 68. sarko. 69. geko. 70. gas mani. 71. olRa.