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Michael Waring Has Seen the Energy Downturn Movie
Before, and He's Not Worried
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01/29/2015
With oil and gas prices down, it's time to cull the herd, sell marginal producers
and double down on the strong ones in your portfolio, says Michael Waring,
founder of Galileo Global Equity Advisors Inc. In this interview with The
Energy Report , Waring explains that this kind of correction happens every 10
years in this space. It presents opportunities for companies to improve and
investors to profit—and he names four companies he considers most likely to
succeed.
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The Energy Report: Michael, you said in November that the Organization of the
Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) expected the U.S. to share in reducing
production growth to help stabilize the oil market. Have events justified that
expectation?
Michael Waring: Events have not. But I think we need to address that statement. I
don't believe that the Saudis are out to hurt Iran, to punish the Russians or to take
down shale oil production in the U.S. I don't think this is some Machiavellian
scheme. I think it is simply a question of market share. The Saudis are saying they
have the lowest operating costs in the world, so why should they be the first guys to
cut? It makes more sense that the more expensive guys cut production first. When
you say it that way, you can actually understand the point the Saudis are trying to
make here. It wouldn't be logical to assume that Russia or the U.S. would
voluntarily take production down, but it's going to be forced on them by lower prices.
And the Saudis have really talked the price down. When you look at the rhetoric of
the last two months, they've gone out of their way to drive it down. I think the basic
attitude has been that if the high-cost guys don't want to voluntarily reduce
production, we'll make them reduce it by lowering the price to the point where it
hurts.
TER: Will those low prices do permanent damage to the North American industry?
MW: I wouldn't use the word permanent, but damage is being done that will take
probably more than a couple of years to recover from.
I think that the smaller oil and gas companies on the shale oil and gas treadmill
—and I refer to it as a treadmill because they have to keep drilling aggressively if
they want to keep their production flat or growing—have a real problem now
because the banks won't lend to them, the bond markets are closed to them and
they can't issue equity because the stocks have collapsed. You'll see consolidation.
And it's going to shake a lot of the marginal guys out of the business.
"Investors want to use this as an opportunity to clean house and go high
grade into the companies that will give good torque on the way up."
This happens every 10 years in the oil and gas industry. It is a commodity business
after all, and what's happened to the price isn't way out of line with what's happened
in the past. This is actually a good thing about the industry: It tends to be selfcorrecting and cleansing. What happens at a moment like this is that the good guys,
with really good plays, are solid and secure. It's the marginal guys that get
squeezed out, and the marginal guys tend to drive the cost up over time because
everybody is outbidding for services. If you clean all those guys out, then you have
a reset back to a lower cost base, and a focus on oil and gas plays that make sense
and generate a good economic return through full-cycle pricing.
TER: What should investors do in this market?
MW: In our own portfolio, if we have two or three names in the energy sector that we
were interested in, or that we owned but didn't have a high degree of conviction in,
we would use this as an opportunity to sell those names and double down on the
two or three stocks that we have a high degree of conviction in—that we know will
dramatically outperform coming out the other side. That's a key. Investors probably
want to use this as an opportunity to clean house on the energy portion of their
portfolios and go high grade into the companies that will give good torque on the
way up.
TER: Is there a silver lining for oil and gas investors in this dark cloud of falling
prices?
MW: In every previous cycle, prices 6–12 months after the bottom are up quite
sharply. I don't know the exact timing this time around, but I do know that the harder
and faster prices come down, the harder and faster they're going to go up. That's
typically been the case, unless you want to utter those very dangerous words: "This
time is different."
The point I would make is that we have an opportunity to buy shares in companies
where the stock price is down 50–60%, but the business models are not impaired
and the companies have a solid asset base. We are actually being given a gift. If
you can look out one year, it will be a gift to own these stocks at fabulous, attractive
valuations.
TER: The Energy Information Administration (EIA) is forecasting Brent crude
averaging $58/barrel ($58/bbl) in 2015 and $75/bbl in 2016. What's your forecast?
MW: We wouldn't be too far off that. I just had to send an estimate out to a client,
and we're thinking $70–75/bbl oil in 2016, and we're depending on natural gas at
$2.75–3.25 per thousand cubic feet ($2.75–3.25.Mcf).
TER: Is that oil price Brent or West Texas Intermediate (WTI)?
MW: That's WTI. I wouldn't say they're trading at parity, but the gap between Brent
and WTI has narrowed dramatically.
TER: Do you expect that to remain the case? They've been running $3–4/bbl apart.
MW: On a go-forward basis, I'm expecting it to remain narrower than it's been
historically, or for the last two years, let's say.
TER: The EIA's forecast seems to point to an extended period for lower prices.
What oil and gas investments are safe in such a market?
MW: We have to remain focused on the fundamentals behind the business. It's a
moment where psychology has taken hold, and people have forgotten, overlooked
or can't be bothered with the fundamentals. The fundamentals of each company on
its own will tell us what we need to know. If you look at the supermajors and largecap oil companies, from Suncor Energy Inc. (SU:TSX; SU:NYSE) to Canadian
Natural Resources Ltd. (CNQ:TSX; CNQ:NYSE)—we don't own those names and
those aren't part of our universe—any company of that stature is going to be just
fine. Likewise, a company like PrairieSky Royalty Ltd. (PSK:TSX) on the royalty
side is going to be fine. It's debt free with a lot of cash. There are ways to play this
sector at the moment, looking at companies with very attractive valuations, solid
balance sheets, and secure assets and cash flow going forward. Something like
PrairieSky, in my mind, would certainly fit the bill.
TER: Are you expecting mergers and acquisitions (M&A)?
MW: I think there will be consolidation in the business. I think that's inevitable.
Having weak players without a lot of choices in terms of flexibility going forward will
lead to mergers and consolidations. But good companies with good asset bases
won't have to be in the M&A game. All they need to do is focus on those assets.
TER: You have a diverse portfolio of companies. Are the companies you're referring
to in that portfolio?
MW: Yes, they are. We have a concentrated list of holdings in oil and gas. Oil and
gas currently makes up about 20% of our mutual fund holdings. We have a fairly
concentrated list of four or five names that we like a lot.
TER: Can you talk a little about some of those?
MW: Sure. The first one would be Paramount Resources Ltd. (POU:TSX). I think at
one point late last summer, this was a $65/share stock. It cut down to $22/share. It's
currently $29/share. This is a natural gas and liquids producer. It has exposure to a
play in Western Canada, along with a company called Seven Generations Energy
Ltd. (VII:TSX). These two companies together probably have the most attractive
rock in the Western Canadian sedimentary basin. The returns from this play are the
highest we can identify out there, because of the high level of liquids and
condensate produced alongside the natural gas.
"What happens at a moment like this is that the good guys, with really
good plays, are solid and secure."
Paramount has decided to build its own infrastructure and its own gas processing
plant, as opposed to using a midstream company like a Keyera Corp. (KEY:TSX) or
Pembina Pipeline Corp. (PPA:TSX; PBA:NYSE). What that means is that on a goforward basis, Paramount will capture more margin and have lower operating costs
and greater control over its operations than a company using a third-party
midstreamer.
We're very excited about this company. It is currently producing 37,000 barrels a
day (37 Mbbl/d) from a gas plant that it brought on last June. It is adding a piece of
equipment in the plant that will allow it to deal with all the condensate and liquids
coming out of these wells. When that is complete in March, corporate production
will increase to 70–75 Mbbl/d in 2015. The company will have a dramatic increase
in production and a dramatic increase in cash flow.
The knock against the company is that it borrowed a lot of money to build up this
plant. It was a $250 million ($250M) capital expenditure, so the debt numbers look
high. But we would argue that once it is up and running at 75 Mbbl/d, on an
annualized basis, the cash flow is going to be $700M at $65/bbl oil. We think the
debt/cash flow numbers are going to dramatically improve. In this environment, how
many companies can double production in the next four to six months? Understand,
the money is all spent. The company has 45 wells standing behind pipe to support
this plant once the stabilizer comes onstream. There's nothing that Paramount has
to do at the margins. It's a slam dunk.
The risk is that we want to see this stabilizer come onstream smoothly. It's going to
have a startup period, but the main plant itself was started up last spring, and
Paramount has been able to bring that on pretty steadily, without any problems or
interruptions. This is a name we like a lot. We think when prices finally bottom, this
stock will recover very quickly.
TER: What other companies do you like?
MW: One is Secure Energy Services Inc. (SES:TSX). This company deals in oil
field waste and water disposal. This is a razor blade-type story, because Secure
Energy provides a service to the industry, and whether prices are up or down, the
industry needs to deal with waste and water. As wells mature in Western Canada,
they tend to have higher water production over time, so the older a well gets, the
more water it produces. This is probably the most solid of all the service businesses
that we know of.
Management at Secure Energy is great. I've known the guys for 15 years, maybe
longer, and they've done an excellent job to date, since the company has come
public. Secure has been beaten up along with other oil service names, but it stands
apart. This company will stay busy—maybe not at the same level, but it's going to
stay busy.
"The Saudi attitude has been that if the high-cost guys don't voluntarily
reduce production, we'll make them reduce it by lowering the price until
it hurts."
Then I'd mention Canadian Energy Services and Technology Corp. (CEU:TSX). It
provides drilling fluids to the oil and gas industry. Part of the business is tied to oil
well drilling, because the company makes specialized fluids needed to drill
complex horizontal wells. But it also produces chemicals used by the industry to
stimulate production from existing wells. This is a consumable-chemistry company,
not a true oil and gas service company. Again, it doesn't have to go out and invest
in all kinds of steel and iron. What it invests in is research and development in a
chemistry laboratory.
We like this company. It has tremendous free cash flow because it doesn't have to
buy and sit on equipment. We think, again, this is a name that will come rocketing
back when the time is right. EOG Resources Inc. (EOG:NYSE), in the States, is the
biggest operator in the Eagle Ford Basin—one of the best at what it does. It uses
Canadian Energy Services for all of its drilling fluids, so that should tell you
something about the quality of the product.
The last company—a straight oil company—is Whitecap Resources Inc.
(WCP:TSX.V). It has top management and light oil. It has a dividend yield of
something like 7.25%. The all-in payout ratio is about 100% at current prices, but
that compares very favorably to most other dividend-paying companies in the
space. Whitecap has maintained a very steady payout ratio. It is very good on the
operating cost side. Again, this one will come bouncing back when the psychology
finally turns in the oil market.
TER: A lot of energy service companies are suffering because of lower demand
from their customers. Are Canadian Energy Services and Secure Energy Services
having that problem?
MW: To date, no, they are not. It's not to say that at some point. . .Come spring
breakup, will activity fall off? Yes, it probably will. These companies will not be
completely immune to a slowdown in the industry, but they'll be a whole lot more
immune than, let's say, contract drillers and other service companies. And they'll
provide really good torque on the upside. Again, when the psychology turns and
people decide it's not the end of the world for the energy industry, names like this
will be the first out of the box to bounce back.
TER: What is going to give them a leg up?
MW: I think it's the high-quality nature of what they do. Both companies provide
something very specialized, as opposed to a fleet of generic drilling rigs. They are
not commodity-type businesses. In the case of Canadian Energy Services, when it
gets involved with a company like EOG Resources, it tailors its drilling fluids to suit
the needs of EOG in that particular field. Once it gets engaged with a customer, it's
very hard for that customer to go somewhere else just because somebody can
shave 10% off the price. This is very specialized stuff. Once you get that
relationship going, you have to really screw up to lose that relationship.
TER: What are Paramount Resources and Whitecap Resources doing to ensure
they can survive in this low-price market?
MW: Both are watching their capex very carefully. Paramount does not pay a
dividend; Whitecap does. It has a history of raising that dividend, and has done so
every couple of quarters consecutively since it became public. Just before
Christmas, Whitecap said it was expecting to raise the dividend in January this
year, but it has decided to defer that increase until it sees how things shake out.
"The harder and faster prices come down, the harder and faster they're
going to go up."
In both cases, it's a function of how quickly these companies want to grow, or
whether they want to slow down the growth rate. They have the luxury of deciding
their fates, of determining how quickly the business grows or whether they're going
to throttle back on capital expenditures and slow it down.
TER: What qualities in a company catch your attention and keep you interested?
MW: I think in oil and gas, first and foremost, it has to be the management team. I
don't know any other business where companies end up reinvesting so much
capital in the business. If you're not good at what you do—if you're not good on the
cost side—you can blow your brains out and destroy capital very quickly. Investors
should get a read on management—look at the track record, the pedigree, etc.
Operating costs and netbacks tell you a lot about the caliber and diligence of
management. Those are very important metrics to look at.
Second, investors need to assess the geology of the company's holdings. Asset
quality can vary greatly between companies. To use Paramount as an example,
you can't own better rock in Western Canada. Maybe somebody will find something
else in the future, but at the moment, this company has some of the best acreage in
the business. Understanding something about the geology is helpful.
It's never easy going through the down times. I've been to this movie before, and
quite frankly I'm tired of seeing it. Each movie plays out a little differently, but it
always ends up the same. At the moment it feels like it's the end of the world, it will
never come back, etc., etc. But it always feels this way. Every cycle, it always feels
this way.
TER: Thank you for your insights.
Before forming Galileo Global Equity Advisors Inc. in 2000, Michael Waring served
from 1985 to 1999 as a vice president, director and portfolio manager at KBSH
Capital Management Inc., a private investment management firm with over $10B
under management. Waring obtained his master's degree in business
administration from the University of Western Ontario, is a CFA charter holder and
a member of the Toronto CFA Society.
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